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Jeff Spalla
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 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject: NET film fest winner "Next Season" on TeleVision |
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Well that was a complete waste of 11 minutes of my life that I will never get back again.
Can anyone explain to me how this video could have possibly won? How bad are the rest if this one was the crowd favorite?
I hate to be so negative, I know how uncomfortable it makes some of you to read this sort of thing, but Next Season was the most boring video I have ever seen on TeleVision. Boring and incomprehensibly dumb. |
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Mudhiker
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, it certainly didn't do much for the stoke factor. I happen to like "music and skiing."
It was sort of cute though. |
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Kimo
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I like watching good tele skiing set to good music a hell of a lot more than trying to follow a poorly told "story" and unfunny jokes mixed with some uninspiring skiing on hardpack at some little hill. |
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Joni_M
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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The production quality was good for an amateur film, but I agree the script was lousy, the skiing did nothing for me and all those cutaways to the DVD player drawer nearly put me to sleep. I'm usually pretty good at figuring out what a movie is supposed to be about or the feeling it's supposed to impart, but I have almost no idea what the makers of Next Season were trying to do with this film.
Yes, this is my least favorite movie I've seen on TeleVision too.
A lot of people must have liked it though since the audiece judged it to be the winner. |
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herridge
Joined: 06 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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It had a few good moments. The punch line at the end is completely wasted on anyone who didn't see last year's video from the same crew. I liked it, but have to admit it is not going to be saved in my Ttips video "library".
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P.S. Sometimes tele skiers do need to laugh at themselves. This video serves this purpose - although not quite as adeptly as the "AT Anonymous" (can't remember the actual title) video. |
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Brent
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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It's not "Powderwhores," but it's not meant to be. It's a guy jonesing about skiing during the offseason and getting suckered into buying some tele movies, which leads into a sendup of some typical genres of ski films. It pokes fun at the relationship between people who like to ski and movies about skiing. I thought it was creative and well crafted (particularly the editing).
If all you're interested in is watching rad guys and gals skiing to music, then it ain't for you, but I thought it was funny, and an example of good filmmaking. |
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Mick
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Sometimes tele skiers do need to laugh at themselves. |
I don't mind lauging at myself and other telemarkers, I just didn't get the joke in this one at all. What were we supposed to laugh at? I saw last year's Pinhead Hunter but didn't get the "punchline" either. |
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vtRat
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Brent wrote: | It's not "Powderwhores," but it's not meant to be. It's a guy jonesing about skiing during the offseason and getting suckered into buying some tele movies, which leads into a sendup of some typical genres of ski films. It pokes fun at the relationship between people who like to ski and movies about skiing. I thought it was creative and well crafted (particularly the editing).
If all you're interested in is watching rad guys and gals skiing to music, then it ain't for you, but I thought it was funny, and an example of good filmmaking. |
Cast my vote in the "liked it!" category. There were times that I laughed out loud. I'm not sure it was a ski movie (the rules never said it had to be), but it was certainly a movie about skiing; and I could relate to it. |
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Andrew L
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| People go 192 days w/o skiing? WTF? |
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Joni_M
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Brent wrote: | It's not "Powderwhores," but it's not meant to be. It's a guy jonesing about skiing during the offseason and getting suckered into buying some tele movies, which leads into a sendup of some typical genres of ski films. It pokes fun at the relationship between people who like to ski and movies about skiing. I thought it was creative and well crafted (particularly the editing).
If all you're interested in is watching rad guys and gals skiing to music, then it ain't for you, but I thought it was funny, and an example of good filmmaking. |
That last line is not fair. I'm sure there are plenty of us who enjoy seeing more than rad guys and gals skiing to music but who found it hard to follow what was supposed to be going on in Next Season. The problem is that the supposed "typical genres of ski films" were mostly unrecognizable and unfunny.
If the first lampooned genre had shown a tele skier sitting on a log in the lotus position while a narrator softly intoned some nonsense about "soul," that would have been a better start, then maybe moved to girls tele skiing in bikinis with boys whistling, cat calling and swilling beer a la the typical spring bash filler in many ski movies, that would have been another.
The ski action stuff in Next Season didn't remind me of any genre of ski movie I have ever seen (telemarking bumps with a lurk set to bluegrass???), a better approach would have been to show some guys doing endless jumps but landing like a sack of potatoes. All of these things would have been recognizable sendups.
Not only did I not laugh, I didn't even crack a brief smile.
On a positive note, from a technical view the opening was great, the sound of the scraper and the credits being revealed
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MWTele
Joined: 06 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Andrew L wrote: | | People go 192 days w/o skiing? WTF? |
I think you guys have to be from the midwest to get it. And yes Mr. Andrew L... it was 245 days between last day the last season and first day of this season! 
Oh and if you guys really want to, there's more! There's a 25 minute version on their website www.hairydoughnuts.com.
I got a chuckle out of the short version when I first saw it, but now I'm skiing and it didn't do as much for me. Maybe we're not supposed to analyze it so much.
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theQuills
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| IMHO its all good. You didn't pay for it nor did they make $$$ off of it, so why bother? Maybe you should convince Mitch to open another OT forum for all of you amateur film haters. Then you can bitch and moan about a movie you would not have the opportunity to see anywhere else. Cheers for the good comments, and flame on. |
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Joni_M
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| theQuills wrote: | | IMHO its all good. You didn't pay for it nor did they make $$$ off of it, so why bother? Maybe you should convince Mitch to open another OT forum for all of you amateur film haters. Then you can bitch and moan about a movie you would not have the opportunity to see anywhere else. Cheers for the good comments, and flame on. |
If you read my posting history you will see that I am often the first person to start a thread in praise of a video on TeleVision. I love film, I love the craft and the process, and I particularly enjoy grassroots productions. This one just didn't work for me at all, and as a festival winner I was expecting something that would at least be okay enough to want to watch it a couple of times.
I'm sorry you felt the need to lash out and refer to my critique as bitching and moaning. |
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Brent
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Joni_M wrote: | | Brent wrote: | | If all you're interested in is watching rad guys and gals skiing to music, then it ain't for you, but I thought it was funny, and an example of good filmmaking. |
That last line is not fair. |
Not fair? It was a statement that started with "If," not an accusation.
| Joni_M wrote: | | the skiing did nothing for me |
The skiing wasn't supposed to do anything for you. It didn't do anything for the main character in the film either.
| Joni_M wrote: | If the first lampooned genre had shown a tele skier sitting on a log in the lotus position while a narrator softly intoned some nonsense about "soul," that would have been a better start, then maybe moved to girls tele skiing in bikinis with boys whistling, cat calling and swilling beer a la the typical spring bash filler in many ski movies, that would have been another.
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a better approach would have been to show some guys doing endless jumps but landing like a sack of potatoes. All of these things would have been recognizable sendups.
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Yours might work too, but not much different than what the film used, IMO.
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Not only did I not laugh, I didn't even crack a brief smile. |
I guess either:
a. damn, you're a tough nut!
b. damn, I'm a silly sap!
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c. just goes to show how people's senses of humor differ. I could make a long list of things I found funny in the film, and laughed out loud at, but what's the point? |
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theQuills
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Joni_M wrote: | | I'm sorry you felt the need to lash out and refer to my critique as bitching and moaning. |
It was in reference to the others, had I felt the need to single you out I would have.  |
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