lowangle al wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:09 am

I'm not lookin for power from my boot.

Get a pair of 500g skating shoes then... Add a few grams for tech inserts and you have NTN-BC leathers...

Johnny, I read your post on the Ousland being smother than the Gammes but could you delve into a comparison between Gamme 200cm and Ousland 210. Would a longer Ousland turn (or arc...) like a shorter Gamme? From a technical point of view yes, having slightly softer tips will sure help turn initiati...

Wait... The T4 is 6 lbs and not much better than a pair of 4lbs high-quality leathers...
At 7lbs, the Shiver is slightly heavier but MUCH more powerful...

I had them all... And a pair of Guards or Alaskas with inserts would be the ultimate dream...

Cool and legit...
But unfortunately 10 years too late...

I train & race skimo style, but can't give up the tele turn. Drugs, booze, girls, alpine, meat, fat, sugar, salt... All pretty easy to give up... But the tele turn is a hell lot harder to get rid of... I'll never give up my plastic boots, though. I tried "skimo-ing" with Rossignol BC-X12's & Voile ...

I have no interest in heavy or expensive tele gear. I just want to XC on wider skis in steeper terrain. The ALFA Guards are 385$... If a NTN version ever sees the light of day, I doubt it will be cheaper... 8-) In the meantime, NNN-BC is your best friend... but why stick with leather? Because for p...

Even better, imagine your favorite heavy-duty leather boots modded with 2 pins. And imagine your favorite tech toes at around 80g. Now just add a little mod to add a simple flexor, soft, hard or medium, your choice. For under 100g, you have the ULTIMATE XCd binding... Yes, for under 100g ! Almost ha...

bgregoire wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:49 pm

My Norwegian welted boots about 1000g each. My Varg boots are even lighter.

Nice! Now imagine them with 2 pins instead of 3!

lowangle al wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:17 pm

That's a good idea and would be nice on a T4 type boot.

It's been here for over 10 years... It's called a Crispi Shiver NTN.

Would a Tech toe and leathers provide the lightweight performance of nnnbc but with enough control for wider skis? Who wouldn't want that!!! Would a lighter touring version without springs in the plate make sense? How much control is there when just using tech toe touring? Enough leverage and power...