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[randoskier]

@randoskier, Dude, I was skiing in 1970 also — no one gives a f*ck.
I’m older than you are (and no one gives a f*uck) so can tell you you’re old enough to know better.
It’s NOT A GENERATIONAL THING (which no one gives a f*ck about).
It’s a HUMAN thing.
(What the f*ck is this trivializing the “younger’ generation with some ass f*ucking gay picture, anyway?!)
This is just bullish!t.
I would say this to your face if you were standing in the room.
Would you treat @mikael.oh the same as you have if he was standing in front of you?

Apparently I’m pretty pissed off about all this.
I have been sort of an outsider all my life, so the poor behavior exhibited here just triggers feelings about that.
But I stand behind everything said here.

This whole thing reminds me of:
Lord of the Flies;
Survivor;
And the darker side of the web.
Mikael is a real person and people are trivializing him, which is easy to do when someone is not standing in front of you.
Sure, he is far out, but I love his content and different perspective.

This is all as bad as @connyro dumping on @greatgt.

Jeez, just let people be. If you’re not into them, just move on.
But for the love of god, please don’t trivialize and diminish people.
@mikael.oh was not offering humorous banter to riff off of and he made that clear, yet people disrespected his pushback on that and continued.
Now there is a situation where someone who could contribute interesting content and inspire others to maybe push the limits a bit further is disincentivized to participate.
How is that a win for Telemark Talk?
Rhetorical question — it’s not.

Do better.
Better yet, PM @mikael.oh and apologize.
He deserves it.

Calm down and understand that people will have differences on a DISCUSSION forum. Some of us don't take to braggarts like the Michael character or GT. Both are confrontational and preachy. Obviously some of us here are compelled to call that shit out. You don't like it? Take your own advice and look at something else. I don't mind if a dude skis naked with a 360 degree camera and is loud about it. I just don't need to be preached at by them. Or you

Amen

[wabene]

Whew that was a wild ride! X-Nip ha ha ha!

[Stephen]

Excuse me, but I’m putting in a vote to not return to making light of this.
The original poster was not amused.
Regardless of anyone’s opinions / judgements about the original poster …
Well, let’s put it in terms of the training my mom gave me as a child:
“If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.”
It’s stood the rest of time.

EDIT
I may as well toss in the golden rule of “Treat others…”
If the original poster is offended by the tone of some posts regarding his posts, just take it at face value and consider how you might feel if you were in his shoes. If you felt, that for WHATEVER reason, others on the forum had diminished and disrespected YOU.

[connyro]

...
“If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.”
It’s stood the rest of time.

Again, this is a DISCUSSION forum. Some ideas and thoughts are not "nice" depending on your perspective. Do you propose we limit all discussion to only what you or mikeal or gt think is "nice"? The idea of "dont talk unless you have something to nice to say" is anti-intelluctal and narrow minded.

EDIT
I may as well toss in the golden rule of “Treat others…”
If the original poster is offended by the tone of some posts regarding his posts, just take it at face value and consider how you might feel if you were in his shoes. If you felt, that for WHATEVER reason, others on the forum had diminished and disrespected YOU.

This is a two way street. If the original poster is offended by the tone of some posts regarding his posts, he could consider where he went wrong and adjust as needed. or ignore it which is exactly what you and Mikael propose. See how that works?

[fisheater]

I will respectfully disagree. If you ski in red shorts in the winter, nipple comments are fair game.
Quite frankly “safe spaces” are a terrible thing. They are destructive to civil society. At the very least the OP was braggadocios. Good natured teasing, which the nipple comment was, is a healthy to response to the braggadocios behavior.

[Stephen]

EDIT
I don’t totally disagree with you, but respectfully add…

@fisheater, if that’s all it had been, I think we would all still be inbounds.
As it is, it looks to me like this has devolved into Lord of the Flies 2.0

[fisheater]

@Stephen
I am just going to let it be. I lost my patience with the OP once, and I’m not really pleased with myself with that. I’ll stand by my post, but it wasn’t an uplifting post.
I would rather stay to being positive and encouraging.
Take care and have a good evening

[Stephen]

Thanks @fisheater (Bob). I sincerely appreciate that.

PS
Bob just demonstrated all I’m asking for — to demonstrate respectful restraint.

[connyro]

PS
Bob just demonstrated all I’m asking for — to demonstrate respectful restraint.

AGAIN this works both ways! If you come on a discussion forum and preach and brag, you should expect push-back. The solution? Restraint. You restrain from being so sensitive. Mikael should restrain from being so braggy and obnoxious.

[martin2007]

I can't say I didn't get some enjoyment out of this thread. To say so would be some serious holier-than-thou bullshit. Some of it was more than a little bit annoying. Thankfully, the elephants in the room were duly acknowledged. Poached for their lovely tusks. Given a bit of a loving spanking. Okay, not so loving. Oh well. Hopefully, serious bloodshed was avoided, and the magnificent beasts will meander on, tusk-less but cheerful in spite of their loss. To carry on and even, possibly, to found a bright new culture, a generation of genuflecting something-or-others. Even my alliterative metaphors are going straight down hill! It's supposed to be cross-fooking-country AND down-fooking-hill! They're screaming: "Look at me! Look at me! I'm fooking clever!"

Sigh, I miss tele. Not as much, though, the one-upmanship of guy-talk about it.
Granted, sometimes even that is better than nothin'.