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Re: Fischer Nordic Rocker

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:27 am
by Johnny
Oh, I think the Fischer way of measuring rocker is pretty cool!

But we need one standard way of doing things. I had to dig through old technical PDFs written in Ukranian in order to find out about how they measured rocker the XX/XX way. Not the best way to turn something into the standard procedure while everyone else is measuring from the tip... 8-)

Re: Fischer Nordic Rocker

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:32 am
by lilcliffy
Woodserson wrote:The problem with measuring from tip to contact-point-compressed is that you can wild differences depending on how the tip is constructed/designed. A lower profile tip or a high profile tip, etc., can change the distance making it tough to compare different rocker. I think contact-to-contact is slightly more standardized on nordic skis.

Of course on the alpine skis the ubiquitous low profile tips meld into the rocker, so maybe tip to contact-point-compressed is a better standard, but nordic wise I think not.

True- and I agree.

Re: Fischer Nordic Rocker

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:49 am
by lilcliffy
LoveJohnny wrote: while everyone else is measuring from the tip... 8-)

But- this only applies to a tip that is actually truly rockered- in other words, a ski tip that is actually reverse-cambered, doesn't it?

Perhaps the issue is that the standardized method of measuring a true rockered profile (i.e. reverse-cambered), doesn't work effectively when it comes to measuring "Nordic rocker"- perhaps that is why Fischer is measuring Nordic rocker differently.

Re: Fischer Nordic Rocker

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:10 pm
by Johnny
lilcliffy wrote:perhaps that is why Fischer is measuring Nordic rocker differently.

Well, that's the thing. Who said Fischer were actually measuring NR?!? And let's assume that Fischer are measuring Nordic Rocker in a remote laboratory in Austria according to a specific procedure. Where the hell can we see these numbers? :lol:

I mean, there is no information anywhere on any of their skis. It's not on the specs, it's not mentioned anywhere on their website... Except that all their skis seemed to be 5/10, which is obviously not accurate. No info on measurement either. Ok, we were able to dig the information somehow. But if we have to actually buy a pair of skis to know the specs, the whole thing is pretty much useless... ;)

Re: Fischer Nordic Rocker

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:46 pm
by Woodserson
I wonder how NR changes mounting position? The sliding Fischer scale never made a comeback...

Re: Fischer Nordic Rocker

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:37 pm
by Rodbelan
I thought a Nordic Rocker was some sort of Santa Claus wearing a perfecto (leather jacket)...
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Re: Fischer Nordic Rocker

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:23 pm
by lilcliffy
Was/is( :shock: ) St. Nicholas a rocker?

Also- does Santa dress in the Coca-Cola uniform in the Nordic countries?

Re: Fischer Nordic Rocker

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:26 pm
by lilcliffy
That was funny BTW- I have been waiting for someone to make a joke about Nordic rockers...The only Nordic rockers that immediately come to my mind are Scandinavian metal bands...

Re: Fischer Nordic Rocker

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:48 am
by Verskis
lilcliffy wrote:Also- does Santa dress in the Coca-Cola uniform in the Nordic countries?


Yes he does.

At least in Finland the current Santa is bit of a mix of old traditional pagan Joulupukki (literal translation: Christmas Billygoat) who used to punish naughty Children and wear grey clothes, and the Christian and Americanized Santa Claus.

The current Finnish version is still called Joulupukki and lives in the Finnish Lapland like the old version, but he wears the Cocacola costume and brings presents to kids like the Americanized Santa.
He doesn't really punish naughty kids anymore, but sometimes it is still said that he will bring nice presents to nice kids but he will bring brushwood to naughty kids (I guess he spanked naughty kids with that brushwood in the old times).

Re: Fischer Nordic Rocker

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:51 am
by Woodserson
Verskis wrote:
lilcliffy wrote:Also- does Santa dress in the Coca-Cola uniform in the Nordic countries?


Yes he does.

At least in Finland the current Santa is bit of a mix of old traditional pagan Joulupukki (literal translation: Christmas Billygoat) who used to punish naughty Children and wear grey clothes, and the Christian and Americanized Santa Claus.

The current Finnish version is still called Joulupukki and lives in the Finnish Lapland like the old version, but he wears the Cocacola costume and brings presents to kids like the Americanized Santa.
He doesn't really punish naughty kids anymore, but sometimes it is still said that he will bring nice presents to nice kids but he will bring brushwood to naughty kids (I guess he spanked naughty kids with that brushwood in the old times).


In Switzerland sometimes Pere Noel would fly in via parapente along with his evil sidekick and they would land in a field in the village and pass out candy. I distinctly remember getting hit with a stick by his evil sidekick.