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I love my 180 Vectors, they are an amazing ski. However, for my style and my strength level and my experience level in telemark skiing they are too much for me. Particularly the stiff tails really kick my ass hard in this length.

Last year I bought an old pair of K2 Pep Fujas 169cm somewhere around 128-98-118 (give or take a few mm) with lots of tip AND tail rocker. It's a great ski, and I really like it in the powpow. Very dreamy and easy to ski. However they weigh about 100lbs and suck for touring.

So I'm looking for a ski that's soft, with rock-cam-rock about mid-90s in the waist and coming in around 172-175cm in length. I'm driving them with T4s. They'll be for touring in deep snow in New England mostly.

I'm seriously looking at the V6 in a 173 129-98-110.

The NEW UltraVector is out with a softer flex and I'm unclear how much tail rocker has been added, but I don't think much- it's still their firm snow ski.

Any other ski ideas? I've been looking at Women's versions too.

Edited: relevance.

Thanks- but no go. I'm looking into another ski class entirely here, not XCD, but an alpine ski for AT with wax base, and in the 170cm range.

Woodserson wrote:Thanks- but no go. I'm looking into another ski class entirely here, not XCD, but an alpine ski for AT with wax base, and in the 170cm range.

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Young Satchel wrote:

Woodserson wrote:Thanks- but no go. I'm looking into another ski class entirely here, not XCD, but an alpine ski for AT with wax base, and in the 170cm range.

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No worries, dude. Thanks anyway for the effort and participation!

A few added notes: Cheap is good. I looked at the Fischer Ranger 98 WOMENs but it got terrible reviews. The Rossignol Sky 7 WOMENS was seriously considered too, but the lengths run from 170 to 178 and I was thinking somewhere in the middle, which may be me limiting myself.

Whatever ski you decide on get the shortest length recommended for your weight for downhill performance. That's the mistake you made with the Vectors.

lowangle al wrote:Whatever ski you decide on get the shortest length recommended for your weight for downhill performance. That's the mistake you made with the Vectors.

The 180cm Vector is for 140lbs or above... I'm 160 naked... I love them when I parallel turn but when I telemark in rougher snow or terrain I just get bucked and resort back to nailing my heel down. Somewhat defeats the purpose.

I have sold them locally.

It's a mistake I made with the Fischer SBound 98's for sure (should have gotten the 179cm), though the 88's have the same weight specifications and I am fine on the 189cms.

Vectors cheap now at Voile.com with their introduction of the UltraVector... FYI.. $437.50

I know you've sold the Vectors so it's academic, but I think part of the problem you had was with the boot. When I first bought my Vector BC's in a 170 (I was around 145 lbs at the time) I skied them with the last generation T3, which is a forerunner of the T4. When I skied hardback as an experiment they washed out terribly. I now have a TTS system and TX NTN boots and the skis handle all conditions well.

Nick BC wrote:I know you've sold the Vectors so it's academic, but I think part of the problem you had was with the boot. When I first bought my Vector BC's in a 170 (I was around 145 lbs at the time) I skied them with the last generation T3, which is a forerunner of the T4. When I skied hardback as an experiment they washed out terribly. I now have a TTS system and TX NTN boots and the skis handle all conditions well.

I would agree with you to a certain extent, except a I know a few people skiing the Vectors with T4s and they are quite happy. With my lesser ability levels, I sturdier boot would help me, but I am imposing a limit on boots and trying not to go any bigger than the T4. I have many personal reasons for this.

As I think I mentioned, if I was still alpine skiing I wouldn't even think about getting rid of these skis, I'd be on them all day, everyday.