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Re: NNN-BC toe bumper stiffness

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:47 am
by lilcliffy
Well- I have had about enough boredom at my local-lift serve.

I am thinking my next step is NNN-BC with the stiff red flexor...

Re: NNN-BC toe bumper stiffness

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:00 am
by Johnny
I might be wrong, but I think the red ones are NNN mediums only...?
I have only seen black and white BC flexors... White being incredibly, ridiculously fucking stiff... :D

Re: NNN-BC toe bumper stiffness

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:35 pm
by Lo-Fi
I used to have green NNN-BC toe bumpers. They were medium stiffness, significantly stiffer than the black.

They were the maximum usable stiffness for the type of touring I was doing.

They definitely limited kick & glide range-of-motion, but did provide the feeling of a little more rear ski turning pressure and control.

I find the white bumpers are pretty impossible, even after trying to drill out some material from them to make them softer.

Re: NNN-BC toe bumper stiffness

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:46 pm
by Verskis
Johnny wrote:
lilcliffy wrote:Twould appear that Rottefella's intent for the stiffer more active red flexor is for Nordic skating...
Yeah, the red NNN ones are obviously for skating... But for NNN-BC...? Why would anyone want a stiff flexor except for downhill purposes? Nobody is using NNNBC for downhill... Nobody is making turns on NNNBC...! 8-)
It is quite popular to mount NNN-BC bindings to Nordic skates (and I mean ice skates, like Lilcliffy wrote, not skating skis) instead of those regular NNN bindings. I guess it's good to have stiff bindings for that.
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Re: NNN-BC toe bumper stiffness

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:56 pm
by fisheater
lilcliffy wrote:Well- I have had about enough boredom at my local-lift serve.

I am thinking my next step is NNN-BC with the stiff red flexor...
That is why I ski the USGI's and leathers at the ski hill. I'm on 3-pins, but it is the same basic idea. I know why NNN is popular, but for me NN works and I do not want to buy another pair of boots and change out skis.

Re: NNN-BC toe bumper stiffness

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:25 am
by Johnny
Lo-Fi wrote:I find the white bumpers are pretty impossible, even after trying to drill out some material from them to make them softer.
Ahahaha! That is saying a lot about them... 8-)
They are also very hard to install... I almost destroyed the first pair I tried to replace...
Verskis wrote:It is quite popular to mount NNN-BC bindings to Nordic skates (and I mean ice skates, like Lilcliffy wrote, not skating skis) instead of those regular NNN bindings. I guess it's good to have stiff bindings for that.
Oh, you must be right...! That must be it... In fact, I bought the white flexors at the same time (and same store) I bought my ice skates... That makes a lot of sense... I ended up mounting my skates with pins, but they sure will get an NNNBC upgrade soon... 8-)

Re: NNN-BC toe bumper stiffness

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:36 pm
by bgregoire
Verskis wrote:It is quite popular to mount NNN-BC bindings to Nordic skates (and I mean ice skates, like Lilcliffy wrote, not skating skis) instead of those regular NNN bindings. I guess it's good to have stiff bindings for that.
Johnnyboy wrote:Oh, you must be right...! That must be it... In fact, I bought the white flexors at the same time (and same store) I bought my ice skates... That makes a lot of sense... I ended up mounting my skates with pins, but they sure will get an NNNBC upgrade soon... 8-)
The times I was "nordic backountry" ice-skating in sweden, it was as a group, and peeps had a few combinations of bindings and boots: oldskool 3-pin style with locked heel (the worst), NNN-BC and snow skate bindings. I think young athetic types liked the salomon pilots and good skating boots best, although NNN-BC allows for a much warmer boot as they tend to go out for all-day adventures. I remeber now that they mostly did have the red flexors.

Hey, I have a pair of the white flexors if someone wants them...

Johnny, where did you get your skates, in QC? Take care

Re: NNN-BC toe bumper stiffness

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:09 am
by Johnny
Nah, I didn't get mine in QC... Somewhere in VT or NH I don't remember... The simple wooden ones like I bought were very cheap, something like 40$...

A white NNN-BC flexor?
I would definitely take it if nobody else needs it... I need to update my skates to NNN-BC... ;)

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Re: NNN-BC toe bumper stiffness

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:16 pm
by Bri7
Johnny wrote: A white NNN-BC flexor?
I would definitely take it if nobody else needs it... I need to update my skates to NNN-BC... ;)
I want to give them a try too !!! I might need them to survive the geriatric slopes of mont Alta this winter :)

Re: NNN-BC toe bumper stiffness

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:45 pm
by bgregoire
Fun! Any yellow and pink rottefella traps to offer up for trade? Those would fit fine on my next pair of skis!
;)