Rossignol BC90/110

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Re: Rossignol BC90/110

Post by boby13 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:39 pm

Quick side by side pictures between 179cm BC90 and 189cm E88.
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Same thin edges
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Serial number at the exact same place
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They both have nordic rocker
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Same tail construction
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Re: Rossignol BC90/110

Post by D'hostie » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:41 pm

The 112s and 110s look close enough that they could be the same ski.

Then onto the 125s, both FIscher and Rossi have them now. Rossi predates the Fischer and they look different in the subtleties i.e. shape of the tail, etc. Profile is perhaps close enough, but I don't think they are the same. Wonder if those two are made in the same factory?



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Re: Rossignol BC90/110

Post by D'hostie » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:43 pm

boby13 wrote:Quick side by side pictures between 179cm BC90 and 189cm E88.
Whoa, they do look the same, if not identical.

What does the NR look like with the Rossis base to base?



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Re: Rossignol BC90/110

Post by boby13 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:09 pm

Pretty much the same as the E88, the front contact point pull back by about 15cm when compressed
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Re: Rossignol BC90/110

Post by lilcliffy » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:24 am

Great photos- thank you for posting them! (I am terrible)

The Fischer equivalents are almost twice as much dough here in Canada...

The bases and scales on the Fischer are "better"- plus there's the Easy-Skin...Nothing a tin of grip wax and after-market skins won't cure...

Wax retention is better with the sintered base- but durability is better with extruded...

These Rossis are very good value.
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Re: Rossignol BC90/110

Post by lilcliffy » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:30 am

lilcliffy wrote: I have never been a fan of the narrower waxless Rossi BC65/70-
I shouldn't be saying this- haven't skied either of these skis in over 10 years now- and they look to be completely redesigned.
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Re: Rossignol BC90/110

Post by lilcliffy » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:37 am

boby13 wrote:Yes its a typo... on my BC90 its written 90-68-78

I just measured it and its more like 89 at the tips, E88 is also more like 89.
I think the previous generation was 60mm underfoot wasn't it?

Rossi has had a number of occurrences over the years where the actual dimensions of the ski don't match the "model" number. The first generation BC110 had the EXACT dimensions of a Guide/Annum (109-78-95mm), with a stiffer flex- the current model has exactly the same dimensions as the S-112 by my estimation in the shop...The first gen BC125 was actually 123mm at the tip (or something close to that- less than 125 anyway), and was stiff and non-rockered- the current BC125 is a completely different ski- have never handled a Fischer S-125...

I could have bought a BC90 on clearance this spring for less than $200CAN- should have bought one!
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Re: Rossignol BC90/110

Post by greatgt » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:15 am

LC the rebound was 88-60-78....The Outtabounds was 88-68-78....Rebound was a softer turn machine while the Outta was stiffer and when in natural dips in the bush would not ride up the far side leading to superman dives...Those went to Telekid...I kept the softer come up and out of dips rebound for myself...Worked both ways...BC 90 has the sort of same feel as the Outta's....TM



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Re: Rossignol BC90/110

Post by lilcliffy » Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:37 pm

Hey GT-

It has been many years since I had an Outtabounds under my feet- don't know if ever skied the Rebounds. There is actually a framed photo in our entryway into our house of my wife and I on a trek in the Laurentians- with Outtabounds strapped to Rebecca's pack, and my set of Karhu XCD 10th Mtns strapped to my back-must be ~ the winter of 2009-2010?

I don't remember the flex of the Outtabounds, but the current Excursion 88 and the BC90 have a smooth round flex, with a Nordic-rockered tip. They are a bit stiffer than the Madshus Eon/Epoch perhaps- but they have a lovely smooth, round single camber. I really like them.
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Re: Rossignol BC90/110

Post by montrealer » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:50 am

boby13 wrote:
Watch out if you go there, trails are tight and steep! and hard to find...

Vive le ski de fond ;)
Thanks a lot! I’ll check them out if I’m ever in the area. Any favourite trails you’d recommend starting with?



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