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Has anyone tried these skis?

https://www.skinbased.com/skis

or the new black diamond clone? (https://www.rei.com/product/138654/blac ... s-20182019) They look like hoks/koms but maybe even wider. They also have an interesting double channel in front of the skin which seems useful, my hoks slide sideways on me a lot. The one review I found of them online complains of bad downhill performance, but I wonder if the guy wouldn't do better with a tiak.

The 160 OAC ski looks good, but doesn't have much sidecut. I wonder how it performs...also wonder about the foam core and how durable it is.

I own the standard OAC XCD 160.
I am not impressed with it.
Short, slow and unstable as a XC ski.
Not enough width to float in deep soft snow.
Weird, and unstable at downhill speeds.
Highly maneuverable and incredibly light.

I will be writing a more detailed review of them.

trashcat wrote: or the new black diamond clone? (https://www.rei.com/product/138654/blac ... s-20182019) They look like hoks/koms but maybe even wider.

They are almost the same dimensions as the OAC WAP- the Hok being more of a match to the OAC KAR- though the KAR is reported to have more camber and stiffness than the Hok:
https://korpijaakko.com/2013/02/18/oac- ... omparison/

They also have an interesting double channel in front of the skin which seems useful, my hoks slide sideways on me a lot.

What are the snow conditions like when they slide sideways?

The one review I found of them online complains of bad downhill performance, but I wonder if the guy wouldn't do better with a tiak.

I love my Hoks when downhill skiing- especially in soft deep snow. I do use a tiak on very steep terrain and/or difficult snow. Though I find the Hok terrible everywhere on dense/hard/icy snow. IMO- the Hok is a soft deep snow ski- period.

The tiny, stupid and trendy 5cm tip rise on OAC skishoes is just totally useless in powder or for trail breaking. (Where else do they think this will be used?!?)

The new Black Diamond ones are ridiculous. It's just WAP 127's, made by OAC but branded by BD here in North America. Who is stupid enough to waste 450$ USD on this?!?

For those interested in this kind of ski, I found THE ultimate skishoes. More info soon in the review section...

My homebrew skishoes have 10cm tip rise. I've found them to be very slidey in hardpack conditions which everyone will immediately point out they aren't designed for, but sometimes you hit hardpack on your way to the soft stuff. What can I say?

Woaah, 10cm tips are really coooool...! The way it should be!

I use the Hagan Off Limits for hardpack or uncertain snow, they are super fun! (And pretty much what they were designed for...)

Anyone with experience on the 160 XCD GT ? Feedback ? Thanks

edit: Oops nevermind I missed the "GT" part and didn't realize it was a different ski

aquamogal wrote:Anyone with experience on the 160 XCD GT ? Feedback ? Thanks

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lilcliffy wrote:I own the standard OAC XCD 160.
I am not impressed with it.
Short, slow and unstable as a XC ski.
Not enough width to float in deep soft snow.
Weird, and unstable at downhill speeds.
Highly maneuverable and incredibly light.

I will be writing a more detailed review of them.