Fischer E109 length advice
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Fischer E109 length advice
Hey!
My first post here after many hours of reading.
I'm just about to buy a pair of E109 but I have concerns about what length to choose, 200 or 205cm? I'm 180cm (5,9 ft) and 90kg (200 pounds). I already have a couple of narrower skis for flat terrain and the main purpose for my E109 is planned shorter distance with the chance to enjoy the downhills.
Any advice on which length I should hit?
My first post here after many hours of reading.
I'm just about to buy a pair of E109 but I have concerns about what length to choose, 200 or 205cm? I'm 180cm (5,9 ft) and 90kg (200 pounds). I already have a couple of narrower skis for flat terrain and the main purpose for my E109 is planned shorter distance with the chance to enjoy the downhills.
Any advice on which length I should hit?
Re: Fischer E109 length advice
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Re: Fischer E109 length advice
I don't know if you're looking at WAX or CROWNS but:
I have a pair of CROWN E99's in a 205cm and I am 160lbs.
I was contemplating a pair of E109's and I was going to get the 200cm for my height and length.
If you are looking at a WAX ski and you want to enjoy the downhills, shorter might be able to work since you can manipulate the wax pocket, but if you were going for an older CROWN E109 I think the 205 would be the ticket so you wouldn't get excessive drag on the scales.
I have a pair of CROWN E99's in a 205cm and I am 160lbs.
I was contemplating a pair of E109's and I was going to get the 200cm for my height and length.
If you are looking at a WAX ski and you want to enjoy the downhills, shorter might be able to work since you can manipulate the wax pocket, but if you were going for an older CROWN E109 I think the 205 would be the ticket so you wouldn't get excessive drag on the scales.
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Re: Fischer E109 length advice
What do you mean by an older E109 cause there is old and older. If you mean the E109 xtralite waxless/wax that was sold for a few years up to 2017 (included), then its surely very similar to the current 2018 wax version. However, previous to the xtralite era, the E109 what a whole other ski: much stiffer with less sidecut, no nordic rocker.Woodserson wrote:an older CROWN E109
For what its worth, I like to follow weight recommendations and I believe the recommended E-109 length is usually 10cm less than the E99 length. So I would go 5-10cm less than my E99 length (195-200cm). I'm 5'10, 160lbs. The E109 has a softer camber so others might suggest going longer, but I prefer the E109 for what it is: a turnier BC touring ski great for tight forest trails.
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Re: Fischer E109 length advice
Ben is right- the current E109 Xtralite is very different than the previous model.
The E109 Crown Xtralite does not seem to be available anymore- I have both the waxable "Tour" and the waxless-scaled "Crown" E109 Xtralite- both are 205cm.
I am 5'10" and 185lbs without a pack.
I would not want this ski in a shorter length.
The current E109 Xtralite is very light and maneuverable, and with its "soft" camber-and-a-half underfoot and open Nordic-rockered tips- even the 205cm is VERY manageable skiing tight trails in hilly forested terrain.
I both love and hate this ski.
It is truly dreamy downhill for a cambered XC ski.
But the damn ultra-soft rockered tips- coupled with its waspy waist- makes this ski completely unstable when XC skiing and climbing in deep soft snow.
I actually find the current E99 Xtralite more stable and almost as much fun downhill- with its equally rockered tip- and it is certainly a faster and more efficient XC ski than the E109.
I personally think that the current E99 is a much better Nordic touring ski than the E109...
All that being said- at 220lbs I would very much think that you would want the stability, support, glide and float of the 205cm E109.
What are the weight/length recommendations from Fischer for the E109?
The E109 Crown Xtralite does not seem to be available anymore- I have both the waxable "Tour" and the waxless-scaled "Crown" E109 Xtralite- both are 205cm.
I am 5'10" and 185lbs without a pack.
I would not want this ski in a shorter length.
The current E109 Xtralite is very light and maneuverable, and with its "soft" camber-and-a-half underfoot and open Nordic-rockered tips- even the 205cm is VERY manageable skiing tight trails in hilly forested terrain.
I both love and hate this ski.
It is truly dreamy downhill for a cambered XC ski.
But the damn ultra-soft rockered tips- coupled with its waspy waist- makes this ski completely unstable when XC skiing and climbing in deep soft snow.
I actually find the current E99 Xtralite more stable and almost as much fun downhill- with its equally rockered tip- and it is certainly a faster and more efficient XC ski than the E109.
I personally think that the current E99 is a much better Nordic touring ski than the E109...
All that being said- at 220lbs I would very much think that you would want the stability, support, glide and float of the 205cm E109.
What are the weight/length recommendations from Fischer for the E109?
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Re: Fischer E109 length advice
You are correct to clarify, thank you. I was being unnecessarily vague. I meant "old" in the sense that that the CROWN is no longer produced and I was definitely referencing the more modern Xtralite version- which I have in the E99.bgregoire wrote:What do you mean by an older E109 cause there is old and older. If you mean the E109 xtralite waxless/wax that was sold for a few years up to 2017 (included), then its surely very similar to the current 2018 wax version.Woodserson wrote:an older CROWN E109
old = recently no longer produced.
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Re: Fischer E109 length advice
Thanks for all response guys! I think I'll go for 205!