jyw5 wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:54 am
That still leaves a void. I need a ski for icy moderate slopes and crusty days.
Hmmm- I have recently tested the Ingstad BC (in 185/195/205cm) lengths vs the FT62 (188cm)- and although the FT62 is a magnificent ski when the snow is good- both fresh soft snow as well as consolidated corn- I find that this narrow curvy, round-flexing ski does not do well on ice and breakable crust. I think that the Ingstad is actually better on ice and crust than the FT62- despite the much wider turn radius...The tips/tails of both skis- especially the more agressively-sidecut FT62- need to be detuned for that ice and crust!!!
Shouldn't have even started there- are you looking for a ski you can ride on ice and crust with a BC-XC boot?
I wasn't entirely sure about the Gamme for this use especially for less than ideal days at the resort. I am looking for skis that would do relatively better/well on icy groomers and old snow/crud at the resort. I did read Johnny's review of the Cecilie Skog ...which might be a possible option.
Hmmm- again- I assume you are looking for ski that can be rode with a BC-XC boot...Would be an interesting test but you may be on to something here- if you get the Gamme short enough that you can squash its stiffness underfoot and pressure the ski. I would think that a short stiff ski (e.g. Gamme) is going to be more stable on ice and old snow/crud than a softer rounder ski (e.g. Nansen/Cecile)? (Again this is all within the context of a ski that is narrow enough to ride with a BC-XC boot-) But again- I would think you would need shorter than 180cm for this application- at your weight...
I think the Ingstad may not do well (for me) on icy groomers or packed resort groomers.
Similar underfoot to the Gamme- waaaay more tip rocker than the Gamme- MUCH shorter effective edge than the Gamme. But- again- due to its stiff camber underfoot- you would want a short Ingstad BC for icy hardpack.
They would also be too similar to my FT62s. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Very different. Think of the Ingstad like a wider Gamme underfoot with waaay more tip rocker.
The FT62 has a completely different flex pattern and geometry.
Reading the reviews, I thought the Rabb 68 with 3pin would be good for blues and green resort skiing in deeper snow or fresh snow.
This is my impression as well- and in that context would be good with 3-pin or NNNBC.
My Nosi 76 pick is based on the fact that my FT62s are difficult for my weak legs in deep heavy Chugach powder and I thought just a bit wider and more sidecut would help me turn better. They would be a great replacement for the S112. The FT62 is amazing but my skills only allow to shine on the best powder days.
I don't think it is simply skill- the FT62 has its limits.
Don't know anything about the Nosi 76- but does the Nosi have more sidecut than the FT62? Depends on the amount of tip rocker/effective sidecut- based on the photos on the Asnes site the Nosi appears to have much less tip rocker:
Nosi- 108-76-98mm: xx-32+22mm
FT62- 97-62-86mm: xx-35+24mm
At the very least- I am thinking that the FT62 has a shorter effective edge- and therefore a shorter turn radius than the Nosi76?
Just checked the site:
Nosi76: 18.2m radius, 172cm ski
FT62: 16.7m radius, 172cm ski
And- if you are thinking heavy soft snow- I don't think you want sidecut- you want little to no camber, stable flex and tip and tail rocker...You want (I WANT) a ~70mm ski with the profile and geometry of the Voile V6!!!
The Nosi doesn't strike me as powder ski- looks more like a go-up fast then come-down fast on consolidated snow?
I would actually prefer NNN BC bindings for all the skis, but most resorts require leashes and I can't attach one to them...thus I must mount 3pin and the Alfa Greenland 75mm looked good and similar in fit to my NNN BC Guard and Quest Core.
I love my new Alfa Guard Advance GTX! They have finally been broken in. No blisters. Amazingly comfortable! Incredible boots. You can feel the soft snow beneath your feet on light powder days. I have more fun on them than resort skiing on a downhill setup.
You need to use the Guard man- make it work at the resort!!!
(I too LOVE the Alfa Guard!!!)