Another new Rotte binding

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Re: Another new Rotte binding

Post by fisheater » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:35 am

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very psyched about this development! A thinner cable would be cool too but this provides more options. It looks like the cable is removable with a screwdriver. You can put on your Rifuguios and tackle serious terrain w/ the cable if needed :mrgreen:
Canna, I don’t mean to go on a major thread drift, but where would a Rifugulo be say in relation to an Alico Ski March and a Crispi Antarctic?

Also can somebody with experience on this Rotte cable explain to me how it tours better than a Voile 3-P cable, which I really don’t care for unless the cable is in my pack. I usually am ready for a breather before a downhill, I don’t mind clipping the cables on if I think they will help.

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Re: Another new Rotte binding

Post by phoenix » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:42 pm

Johnny,
I had (and mounted a bunch of) Rotte Super Tele's in the 80's; they were the Super Telemark toe piece with a front throw (!) cable... was there a generation between that and the various Chili's with a heel clip?

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Re: Another new Rotte binding

Post by bgregoire » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:01 pm

fisheater wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:35 am
Canna, I don’t mean to go on a major thread drift, but where would a Rifugulo be say in relation to an Alico Ski March and a Crispi Antarctic?

Also can somebody with experience on this Rotte cable explain to me how it tours better than a Voile 3-P cable, which I really don’t care for unless the cable is in my pack. I usually am ready for a breather before a downhill, I don’t mind clipping the cables on if I think they will help.
The Rifugio fits in the middle of the two other boots you mentioned sole stiffness wise.

The ST (Rotte) is a better tourer than the Voile counterparts, and I am not the only one to think this. I won't go into the physics though. The ST + Cable = the best 3pin touring with added beef for the down when required. Good stuff!
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Re: Another new Rotte binding

Post by Woodserson » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:59 am

Anyone find any in North America, yet? Long...

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Re: Another new Rotte binding

Post by Nick BC » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:58 am

Woods, I’ve ordered a pair from Telemark Pyrénées and they emailed me yesterday to say they wouldn’t be available until mid December. So it looks like a short wait. Adventure Nordique also has them on their site but not yet available.

I’m planning to mount them with Voile Traverse shims on my G3 Stinger XCDs and ski them with T3’s and Ski March.

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Re: Another new Rotte binding

Post by Johnny » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:42 pm

phoenix wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:42 pm
Johnny,
I had (and mounted a bunch of) Rotte Super Tele's in the 80's; they were the Super Telemark toe piece with a front throw (!) cable... was there a generation between that and the various Chili's with a heel clip?
Oh! You are right... Mine are the ones with front throw cables too... :?

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Anyone find any in North America, yet? Long...
I was ready to order a few pairs for you guys... But at this ridiculous price, I have absolutely no interest at all... :(
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Re: Another new Rotte binding

Post by fisheater » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:49 pm

The Rifugio fits in the middle of the two other boots you mentioned sole stiffness wise.

The ST (Rotte) is a better tourer than the Voile counterparts, and I am not the only one to think this. I won't go into the physics though. The ST + Cable = the best 3pin touring with added beef for the down when required. Good stuff!
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Re: Another new Rotte binding

Post by Cannatonic » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:58 pm

fisheater wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:35 am
Canna, I don’t mean to go on a major thread drift, but where would a Rifugulo be say in relation to an Alico Ski March and a Crispi Antarctic?

Also can somebody with experience on this Rotte cable explain to me how it tours better than a Voile 3-P cable, which I really don’t care for unless the cable is in my pack. I usually am ready for a breather before a downhill, I don’t mind clipping the cables on if I think they will help.
yes Rifugio is between the Antarctic and Ski March - probably closer to Antarctic. This new Rottefella Chili-type binding cartridge looks to have big springs inside, I would expect it to be much stronger tension than the simple Voile 3pin cable and quite a bit heavier too. In fact it looks like Rotte's version of the Voile Hardwire binding. This one offer lowers risers if you want or an option for higher ones which is cool.

Another question - can the heel/cable unit be attached to existing Super Tele bindings???
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