Fischer E-99 getting a makeover/name change?

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Re: Fischer E-99 getting a makeover/name change?

Post by Struckski » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:56 pm

I just picked these up...what a timeless ski! It would be a damn shame if Fischer stopped making 'em...
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Re: Fischer E-99 getting a makeover/name change?

Post by lilcliffy » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:47 pm

bgregoire wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:35 pm
lilcliffy wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:16 pm
VERY interested.
Once Asnes has perfected a waxless-scaled verson of the Gamme 54 I will have one.
I don't know if I would call it the "Telemark ski" though...
I think that the Nansen is Asnes' old-school Telemark ski.
The Gamme- as is the E99 (oops does this ski still exist :cry: :twisted: )- is more XC-oriented from my perspective.
The E99 is a fantastic BC-XCd ski in hilly terrain, but I still consider it a XC ski.
I was under the impression the Asnes Nansen AND Amundsen (Rago) were both downhill oriented telemark skis in their earlier days. At least that's what Pinnah said:

http://web.archive.org/web/201510021509 ... -skis.html

Or what I thought he said.
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Re: Fischer E-99 getting a makeover/name change?

Post by riel » Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:44 pm

Eärendil wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:22 am
Maybe we can ask Åsnes to make a GMTO (Group Made To Order)? Keep the Gamme spec but with a longer waxless base pattern than the regular Åsnes WL. Then drop the current graphics and make it more inline with Combat Nato or MT51. ”The Telemark Ski”?

How many are interested?

//Rickard//
I am interested in a ski like that, but am not sure why they should drop the graphics. Just make the waxless pattern better for all their skis, and start selling a waxless Gamme. I'd buy a pair of those in a heartbeat.

All they really need to do on the double cambered skis is extend the "deep" fishscales to the x-skin attachment point, and then run a short distance (8cm?) of shallow fishscales in front of that.





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Re: Fischer E-99 getting a makeover/name change?

Post by Eärendil » Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:56 pm

riel wrote:
Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:44 pm
Eärendil wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:22 am
Maybe we can ask Åsnes to make a GMTO (Group Made To Order)? Keep the Gamme spec but with a longer waxless base pattern than the regular Åsnes WL. Then drop the current graphics and make it more inline with Combat Nato or MT51. ”The Telemark Ski”?

How many are interested?

//Rickard//
I am interested in a ski like that, but am not sure why they should drop the graphics. Just make the waxless pattern better for all their skis, and start selling a waxless Gamme. I'd buy a pair of those in a heartbeat.

All they really need to do on the double cambered skis is extend the "deep" fishscales to the x-skin attachment point, and then run a short distance (8cm?) of shallow fishscales in front of that.
I agree , the graphics is less important than getting the waxless base right, but for a special ski I would prefer something less fashion shoot. Like Combat Nato, I think less is more.

//Rickard//





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Re: Fischer E-99 getting a makeover/name change?

Post by joeatomictoad » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:20 pm

Smitty wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:28 am
Good God, how many trademarked buzz words can they fit into one name? Marketing budget is larger than the R&D/Engineering/product testing budgets.
This is what happens when MBA graduates proceed to middle management. They are not good at finding problems, so they just start making solutions in hopes of merit.





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Re: Fischer E-99 getting a makeover/name change?

Post by Smitty » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:15 am

joeatomictoad wrote:
Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:20 pm
This is what happens when MBA graduates proceed to middle management. They are not good at finding problems, so they just start making solutions in hopes of merit.
Well said.





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Re: Fischer E-99 getting a makeover/name change?

Post by riel » Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:30 am

joeatomictoad wrote:
Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:20 pm
This is what happens when MBA graduates proceed to middle management. They are not good at finding problems, so they just start making solutions in hopes of merit.
The ski companies all seem to work with pretty impressive athletes to find problems and improve their products.

However, the top athletes likely find some slightly different problems than average skiers like us. This can result in skis that are high performance, but not very forgiving.

Looking at the Rossignol BC skis, I'm guessing they get most of their feedback through rental shops. Those skis appear to be extremely forgiving of poor technique, but not as high performance as they could be.





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Re: Fischer E-99 getting a makeover/name change?

Post by FourthCoast » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:11 pm

riel wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:30 am
[...] the Rossignol BC skis [...] appear to be extremely forgiving of poor technique [...]
Hmmmm. Maybe I need to give the Rossi BC skis more consideration.





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