2015 Åsnes Combat NATO

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lilcliffy

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Re: 2015 Åsnes Combat NATO

Postby lilcliffy » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:48 am

Wel,l I am increasingly convinced that this is a deep snow, distance-oriented ski.

The XC and climbing performance of this ski in deep soft snow is truly amazing for such a narrow ski. The combination of low profile, but resistant camber underfoot; full-length, stable flex; and kick-ass trail-breaking tip; make this ski a deep snow mile-crushing machine.

(They have now replaced my 195cm Annums for distance-oriented tours in very deep snow.)

These skis offer wonderful, open, wide-radius turns- if you have the room.

If you need to downhill ski tight lines- these skis are so wonderfully light, that they can easily be forced into step/jump and striding turns- even with light soft BC-XC touring boots (I am currently skiing on these with Alpina Alaska BC boots).

If you want to be able to completely overpower or drive this ski in downhill turns- you need Telemark boots and bindings (surprise :shock: ;) ).

These skis do not have the round flex of a downhill/Telemark ski- they have the flex of a XC ski- that is finely tuned for deep, soft snow, and climbing steep terrain.

They are acceptable- if not high-performance- XC skis on dense, compacted trails. They are not as fast on dense snow as truly double-cambered skis like the E-99/Glittertind. ( I now have a pretty clean broken out tracks on my backwoods trail loops (5-15kms)- I took the 210cm E99 Tour out late yesterday afternoon and absolutely crushed about 10kms- significantly faster than the Combat Nato on a dense, stable base.)

They are much faster XC skis than very soft distance-oriented skis like the Madshus Eon- and of course, not only faster than, but also track straighter than wider, more curvy hybrid skis (e.g. Epoch/S-98/Annum/S-112). All of these hybrid skis greatly sacrifice XC performance for moderate downhill performance.

If you want a BC distance-oriented Nordic touring ski- and you need/want to cruise in deep, soft snow- the Combat Nato in a traditional full XC length.

BTW- Asnes has redesigned the Ingstad- review and discussion already started elsewhere on this site- they are continuing to make the Combat Nato. Good stuff.
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lilcliffy

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Re: 2015 Åsnes Combat NATO

Postby lilcliffy » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:50 am

Confirmed:

The Combat Nato remains unchanged- it is has the exact geometry and flex of the previous-gen Ingstad.
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Re: 2015 Åsnes Combat NATO

Postby bem » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:48 pm

Hi,
I will get my Asnes Combat Nato next week. I selected on purpose sligtly longer, 210 cm, then recommended (200 cm in my case)
I use at present Asnes Amundsen Fram (205 cm) Waxless (WL) since Feb 2017. I have came to the conclusion I need some sligtly wider skis then the Amundsen skis, that I can use in deeper snow. I do most back country skiing in rather flat terrain. I was tempted on Asnes Ingstad Waxless but this skii is softer towards the tip that probably is not so good when skiing mostly in flat terrain in deeper snow.
I doubt we will see any Combat Nato waxless but for me it would have been an interesting skii to test if it existed.
But I'm sure the current non waxless Combat Nato will be fine.
I bought one Asnes X-Skin 45mm NATO also, it is nylon, I doubt I will use it regularly but will test it. I will get one 40 or 45 mm mohair skin also and test.
I selected Rottefella BC Magnum binding for the Combat Nato since this ski is rather wide, I use narrow Rottefella BC Manual on my Asnes Amundsen since that skii is not so wide.
I will write some lines later in this thread when I have used my Combat Nato for a while.
/Bo

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lilcliffy

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Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:20 pm
Location: Stanley, New Brunswick, Canada
Ski style: Nordic backcountry touring
Favorite Skis: Asnes Combat Nato; Asnes Storetind; Asnes Gamme 54
Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska; Scarpa T4
Occupation: Forestry Professional
Instructor at Maritime College of Forest Technology
Husband, father, farmer and logger

Re: 2015 Åsnes Combat NATO

Postby lilcliffy » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:19 pm

bem wrote: I was tempted on Asnes Ingstad Waxless but this skii is softer towards the tip that probably is not so good when skiing mostly in flat terrain in deeper snow.

Hello Bem,
I have both of these skis and the current Ingstad actually has a stiffer tip than the Combat Nato. The Ingstad has a lot of tip rocker. The tip rocker is not an asset for XC skiing. The Combat Nato- though very stable and maneuverable on steep terrain- does not offer the tip rise and turn-initiation of the Ingstad- but, the Combat Nato is a better XC ski and more versatile overall.

I selected Rottefella BC Magnum binding for the Combat Nato since this ski is rather wide, I use narrow Rottefella BC Manual on my Asnes Amundsen since that skii is not so wide.
I will write some lines later in this thread when I have used my Combat Nato for a while.
/Bo

I have the standard Manual binding on my Combat Nato. I have the Magnum on my Ingstad BC- only because the Manual bindings were out of stock.
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Very much looking forward to reading your experiences with the Combat Nato and in comparison to the Amundsen Fram. Keep us posted!
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.


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