Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Gamme 54 BC

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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Gamme 54 BC

Post by Petetheswede » Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:47 pm

Thanks for the input fisheater. Lots to think about. We'll see where I end up. This trip I'm using 195cm Ingstads vs 200cm Gammes which means i have to work hard to keep up but the extra floatation is nice and noticeable. I might just end up with 205cm Combat NATO as the true compromise.

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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Gamme 54 BC

Post by Jholmb » Wed May 06, 2020 3:10 am

Hi guys and gals!

Thank you for your grate community here, it has been interesting and sometimes funny to read your philosophical (with lots of knowledge behind) thoughts of different skis and their performance. While reading this forum my decision about the ski I want have changed multiple times, from Nansen to Ingstad and now Gamme. I have a 185cm Annum with light AT binding that has served me as multipurpose ski from touring to kite ski'ing. I have also made multi day ski treks with them. They have been okay and get me where I was going. I have limited experience for camper skis and technic to ski them.

Now I live in a nice place with rolling terrain, riverbeds and big lake. We have here kind of continental weather and winds that form snow cover. In forests snow is usually soft and on open spaces its usually compacted. I want a ski that performs well in those open spaces and I can go the distance.

So Im going to get the Gamme, my height is 178cm/5'8 and weight 74kg/163 lbs. For me buying online is now only option. I have possibility to get both 190cm or 200cm Gamme. I think it is going to be one of those. Boot is going to be Alfa Skarvet or Guardian. Binding nnn/bc manual.

So what I'm asking for you is, if you could give me some tips how to check that the length of the ski is right. I have watched some videos from youtube and read some your compression tests, but didn’t find dedicated page for determine the ski length. Im afraid that there is too much camper and kicking come impossible and all the childhood memories from the xc tracks come back to haunt me. But what I have read here is that this ski is quite soft campered and you have more ‘room’ choosing the right ski.

Thank you very much of this interesting forum and all the knowledge and details you put here.

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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Gamme 54 BC

Post by Woodserson » Thu May 07, 2020 10:02 pm

Jholmb wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 3:10 am

So Im going to get the Gamme, my height is 178cm/5'8 and weight 74kg/163 lbs. For me buying online is now only option. I have possibility to get both 190cm or 200cm Gamme. I think it is going to be one of those. Boot is going to be Alfa Skarvet or Guardian. Binding nnn/bc manual.

So what I'm asking for you is, if you could give me some tips how to check that the length of the ski is right. I have watched some videos from youtube and read some your compression tests, but didn’t find dedicated page for determine the ski length. Im afraid that there is too much camper and kicking come impossible and all the childhood memories from the xc tracks come back to haunt me. But what I have read here is that this ski is quite soft campered and you have more ‘room’ choosing the right ski.
I am 188cm/6'2" and 71kg/157lbs and for some wild reason I have both the 200cm and 210cm version of this ski.

The 200cm was almost perfect, but I found it (or so I thought) a little slow on the flats, I missed that long-ski-glide, but it was really nice in the hills for climbing and a bit easier to turn on the way down because of the shorter length. Then a 210cm pair came up for sale and I purchased those, and they are nice and fast on the flats, and I was pleased, but I would slip on the hills and I needed to lengthen my wax pocket considerably. So then I thought, why don't I just use the 200cm, but then I think... man, these are a little short.

I need a 205cm.

How all this pertains to you: The Gamme is one of the greatest skis in this particular class. It's a little heavier, with a manageable camber, but not a camber that is as high as something like a new E99 but it gets stiff at the end of the flex. So you have to think... are you going to be in hilly terrain with lots of climbing and downs or be primarily on the flats.

When I hear "lakes," "rivers," and "continental snow" with "soft snow" in the woods and compacted elsewhere, I think 200cm is probably the way to go here. It sounds like you'll be spending more time on these terrains rather than the hilly sections. The longer length will float better and glide better for your weight and the fact that you will probably be carrying a backpack, right?

Also, these skis "turn" but won't turn as easy as your Annums. If turning is what you need to do, and a lot of it, this is not the ski for it for someone with "limited experience." The only reason to go 190 in your scenario would be for the slightly better turning abilities of a shorter ski during the rolling terrain, but this ski doesn't turn as well as an Ingstad anyway, so if you're going to put down the miles and want to the go the distance and not sink through the snow, I'd go with the 200cm and screw (as in forget about) the turning. (you CAN turn them, it will just take time to learn).

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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Gamme 54 BC

Post by Woodserson » Thu May 07, 2020 10:40 pm

The above post assumes no XSkins, waxing only.

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Re: Ski Review: 2018-2019 Åsnes Gamme 54 BC

Post by fisheater » Sat May 09, 2020 9:01 am

Jholmb,
Since you were kind enough to use English measurement for us American readers, I will be a bit lazy and offer only English measurement. I am 5’ 9”, about 190 lbs, I poured concrete for about 20 years.
I ski the green Gamme at 210 cm, in my rolling terrain. I live in an area of glacially deposited sand and gravel hills. There are a lot of short and steep uphills and downhills. However, there are flat areas as well. I really like how fast I can go on the Gamme. I never skied an Annum, but I have an S-112 which is similar. The S-112 turns easily and simply. The Gamme requires more step turning, maybe a hop turn. I am not taking the Gamme on a steep wooded hillside though. However I do have a lot of fun with the Gamme on local twisty, steep, trails.
At my weight, I do not consider the camber of the Gamme. I am not a trained XC skier, however I have never had the wonderful kick and glide efficiency until I started skiing the Gamme.
Don’t throw away that Annum! There hopefully will be many days it will be great fun making turns down those hills on the Annum!

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