Asnes Combat NATO / Nansen 2-Part Pole Review

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Asnes Combat NATO / Nansen 2-Part Pole Review

Post by Johnny » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:36 am

Asnes Nansen vs Combat Nato Poles review.jpg

I like poles. I like poles a lot. I'm a pole guy. Ok ok, I am crazy about poles. I have a pole rack. I have some 50+ pair of poles at home and believe it or not, I almost use them all. They all have a very specific use, with different lengths according to the kind of skiing I plan to do, the boots I choose, the bindings height, strap length, the stance, angulation and terrain I will ski.

I have been ordering the "new" Nansen 2-part poles for over two years. And everytime I did, I always got an email back from Asnes saying that the Nansen poles are still not available. From what they said, it seems like they have been perfecting this pole for several years until they finally went into production. Well, after a long wait, they are now finally available! But wait, there is even better than the Nansen poles: The Asnes Combat NATO poles! They are exactly the same as the Nansens, except they are white. Wow, even cooler!

According to Asnes, "This pole was designed and produced somewhat in secret, as we had some upcoming military contracts. We launched in late summer for NATO, but the demand in Norway has been there, so we launched it for the commercial marked as well." In fact, even if the Nansens were included in the Katalog for a few years, the Combat poles only showed up on their website in the last few days. Seriously, how can a ski pole look better than this?
Asnes Nansen Combat Nato 2-section Poles.jpg

The poles are great and well-constructed. And at only 540g for a pair, they are very light. Plus, they go up to 155cm! I really like the grip and the feel. The powder baskets are REALLY nice, fully flexible and easy to change. And one thing I totally like about these new poles is the strap adjustment system. A new patented Asnes concept. It's so easy to adjust, just flip a small lever and you can change the strap length in one second. Yep, one second to change ski mode. No need to have different pairs of poles with different strap length/height. No more fighting with straps and plastic thingies with your fingers in the cold. Brilliant... Absolutely brilliant!



It's not the perfect downhill pole. It's not the perfect XC pole. It's simply the best compromise you can get for ALL your touring needs. And at the same price you would pay for crappy chinese-made p❖les at your local ski shop. No need for 50 pairs anymore Johnny... Military grade quality? I sure will put them to the test this winter... 8-)

Alloy pole produced in a solid 7075 alloy quality. This pole is adjustable (2-Section) and can be adjusted from 110-155cm. Twist lock with double expansion, this secures the pole in selected length. The Combat NATO Alloy 2-section is adapted for Nordic Backcountry skiing and has a long narrow grip produced in EVA material. This to adapt/change grip when moving into steep terrain and when using a sled. Wide straps gives solid support in steep terrain and constructed with an easy adjustment of strap ( also with the use of mittens/gloves). Wide basket in PA/Nylon and Hypalon. The diameter of the basket is 105mm and secures sufficient support in deep snow.

Asnes Combat Pole 2-Part
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Re: Asnes Combat NATO / Nansen 2-Part Pole Review

Post by Simon » Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:29 am

What’s your opinion of the pole after using it this winter?

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Re: Asnes Combat NATO / Nansen 2-Part Pole Review

Post by Roelant » Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:17 pm

My partner and I both use have Åsnes Spidsbergen Expedition poles, which are quite different from these but have the same baskets. The baskets are functional but not very durable, I did replace them by original ones but have now (after the third one broke) started replacing them with Swix baskets. The poles are great otherwise.

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Re: Asnes Combat NATO / Nansen 2-Part Pole Review

Post by Johnny » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:50 am

The finest (and best looking) poles for everything touring...!

For more DH-oriented skiing, I prefer the smaller cork handles like on the Tind Alloy ones...

I really, really like the baskets... I've been using Asnes poles exclusively for 2 seasons without any basket problems... Roelant, what broke on yours, the ring or the leather thingies?
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Re: Asnes Combat NATO / Nansen 2-Part Pole Review

Post by Roelant » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:06 am

The strips of canvas holding the ring to the pole fail (They don't appear to be leather on mine, in contrast to the SWIX ones we switch to).
We do use these ski poles for track skiing as well, and I cannot exclude that occasionally, we ski over each others baskets, so its not THAT surprising.
So to be fair, they are certainly fit for purpose, but I am unintentionally rough on my gear, and I prefer the more durable albeit slightly heavier leather over canvas.
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Re: Asnes Combat NATO / Nansen 2-Part Pole Review

Post by Åsnes1922 » Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:11 am

Roelant wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:06 am
The strips of canvas holding the ring to the pole fail (They don't appear to be leather on mine, in contrast to the SWIX ones we switch to).
We do use these ski poles for track skiing as well, and I cannot exclude that occasionally, we ski over each others baskets, so its not THAT surprising.
So to be fair, they are certainly fit for purpose, but I am unintentionally rough on my gear, and I prefer the more durable albeit slightly heavier leather over canvas.
Cheers
Roelant
Hi there Roelant,

How old are your poles? We had a very, very minor problem with a very small batch of baskets. They did not have the right stitching and a lower quality material than the Hypalon we use on all the new baskets. If you have a look on the underside of the basket, there is supposed to be stitching around the hole in the center. If you do not have this stitching, the basket is of the wrong quality (bad work from the factory) and it will not absorb all the lateral forces properly.

Here you can see how it is NOT supposed to look like:
basket wrong.jpg
Here is the correct use of high-quality rivets, military-grade Hypalon, and the correct stitching:
basket correct.jpg
If you can take a picture of your baskets (if you have the wrong type) and send it to post@asnes.com, our customer service will of course send you new ones for free. It's is definitely a claim, and it's on the factory and poor work - not the quality of the baskets as they are now.

To ease your minds, we have tested these baskets on expeditions and given them a severe amount of beatings over many years now, and we have almost zero problems with them. We made them be unproblematic, as we were not happy with stock-options.

A few discoveries I have found to be key for baskets:

1. They have to be able to svivel around the pole in a locked position, if not all wear will come on a very specific place on the basket and they will quickly break at that exact point when used hard.

2. The basket in it self has to be flexible in all directions. When we place our poles in the ground, we automatically turn the pole to the left as we push forward on them, and we will strain the basket in oposite directions at the same time. If the basket can not absorb all this energy, they will deform and eventually break. This is ergonomic and anatomy 101 when calculating physics and strain for baskets.

2. The basket should be easy to replace. Eventually they will break, no matter what they are made of. Static steelrings and other bolt/nut solutions is a real hazzle in freezing conditions or when using mittens....

All our test suggest that we have succeeded in the above tasks, but if you have any input - let me know. I'm always interested in suggested improvements.


As for Alpine Touring and more downhill oriented poles - stay tuned! I have some extremely exciting in the works for you. We have a "AT touring pole project X" going on the third season of testing now and it is looking pretty darn promising.
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