Telemark Talk / Telemark Tips Forum

CwmRaider wrote: ↑

Tue May 23, 2023 2:14 am

@lilcliffy could you squeeze your Gammes and measure the distance between uncompressed and compressed contact points? I'm asking you because I know you have a fetish for ski squeezing

Current model 210 Gamme 54 BC→ 19.8cm of Nordic rocker in the shovel.
(My first-gen 210 Gammes are at my friends house- I will measure them when I get a chance. Though from memory the two were identical in terms of geometry.)

CwmRaider wrote: ↑

Fri May 19, 2023 2:47 pm

I just received these skis in 210cm length. The rocker is about half as high as the Åsnes Otto Sverdrup,and much shorter. With bases compressed together at the ball -of- foot, a standard sheet of paper only goes down 30 cm from the ski tips. For comparison a non rockered Madshus Glittertind has a paper test of 20cm from the tips, and a 2014 E99 has nearly 50cm.

Yes- my 210 E99 Xtralite Tour had an incredibly deep Nordic rocker in the shovel- even more than my 205 Ingstad BC.

I noticed today that the motivational phrase under the ski backfires when you use a short skin. Clearly Ousland prefers wax.

HA!
What is the entire phrase?

"You haven't failed until you quit trying"... a bit cheesy

Maybe it means that if you are slipping too much, you should “Quit Trying,” and put the skins on?

Hello from Winterpeg, Manisnowba.
I purchased the Borge Ousland BC ski in 190 for hauling a sled and occasional ice fishing gear and general use without my dog.
With the skins they have been phenomenal. Without the skins I just can't seem to find the proper kick/glide ratio in these. Groomed tracks, off track and hills(i am in the prairies so insert hill joke here....)
From Asnes I also own and absolutely love the Finnmark in 190. After years of AT gear (BC and Aliberta) and skinny track skis the Finnmark was like a cheat code for the terrain I use them on.
Full disclosure I am not an efficient skier and only ski 20 to 30 days a year and have about a dozen outings on them. But I find myself just not liking the Ousland and I REALLY do want to like them. I'll give them a go again next year.
Any advice or hints aside from more time on the skis.
Anyone else have the same issue of either too much grip or no not enough glide?

Asnes Borge Ousland 190cm
NNN BC binding
Alfa Guide Advance 42 Boot
5'10" 180lbs
178cm 80kg

Hi @Sunfun
I really love my Ousland skis, they feel very efficient and are still quite turny. But I bet you have used them more than I.
I dont find the rocker on mine very long but I think skis with longer rocker have shorter glide zones on consolidated snow and getting the wax just right is a bit trickier.