Peltonen Metsä Step 270
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:19 pm
This is a very different creature when it comes to fun in the snow. I’ve been out in various conditions the last couple of months and find them an interesting diversion from the other skis in my arsenal. The majority of my time on them has been with the Alpina Pioneer Tech and a couple of outings with Alpha Frees. I’m finding the Pioneer Tech a better match for day long comfort with the Metsä. If you haven’t guessed yet, I’ve got them mounted with Xplore.
The deepest snow (powdery, unpacked) I’ve been in so far this year has been hip deep when I’ve stepped off the Metsäs- so roughly 90 cm. On the skis it looks like I’m averaging 20 cm of sinking in (less than many snowshoe tracks i see in similar conditions). Not bad for a 100 kilo guy (not including 20L pack with various clothes/water/food…
This is a VERY soft ski (camber compression is quite similar to my 205 Ingstad). Due to its length theres some slight banana effect but it didn’t seem to be much of an issue for forward mobility (78 cm of scale per ski likely has much to do with that). Unfortunately this softer camber doesn’t allow for any energy storage like I’ve found in the MR48, Gamme, or USGI. (Sidenote, the stiffest camber I’ve personally encountered was the Alpina Discovery 80 208 length- too stiff). I did find myself wondering if there would be any benefit to stiffening this ski up a bit, some of that energy derived from more camber could be useful. While a person (meaning an older dog like me) can get some kick n’glide out of the Metsä in ideal conditions for awhile I’ve found it far more efficient to use the quads to mobilize these long planks.
As far as turning these skis, a person becomes even more adept at step turns, particularly if you’re on twisty logging roads. If conditions are right (long slope, powdery
snow you can get into a telemark stance and make some long, sweeping turns. I found that as I was getting tired later in the day I’d be keeping both heels down for better control. I don’t think Xplore is the right binding if this was to be a major part of ones Metsä experience, I suspect a 3 pin with cable would be advantageous. Doing snowplough on the descent is pretty tiring after awhile and I’ve had two successful hockey stops in wide open spaces with powder over a consolidated base…and several unsuccessful ones where the first thing you do is look around hoping no one witnessed the epic (aka comical) failure. STAY OFF SINGLETRACK!!! It will not end well.
As far as uphill travel they’ve got decent uphill mobility (that 78 cm of scale per ski shines here). Doing a Herringbone is surprisingly easy with the Metsä and leaves a pretty impressive pattern in the snow. I’ve carried skins with me (they’re 210 in length so the end just past my heel) but haven’t had to use yet.
I’ve glide waxed 3 times now (number 4 today) and maybe its just in my head but I’ve noticed the glide seems to be improving. I’ve had a couple of issues with snow buildup on the scales when it’s getting warmer during the day. Up to this point I’ve used a liquid glide wax to deal with that but I’m thinking of melting some Polar into the grip zone, buffing it in, and seeing how that works to combat buildup. The bases are very soft and easy to gouge so staying away from thin snow conditions is sensible.
My Metsäs were mounted at balance point putting my pin center roughly 150 cm from the tip (thus having about 120 cm from pin center to tail). Apparently using balance point is Peltonen recommended way of mounting. Theme indicates a different formula for mounting that I might consider. I get why Peltonen makes the suggestion they do for enhanced forward mobility in deep snow but I strongly suspect that moving pin center forward a bit would help with control. Another minor point- while these are by no means an asymmetrical ski I’ve had to make a right/left designation otherwise my skis tend to ‘V’ out while traveling…strangely enough they don’t ^ in.
As far as snow travel, they kick ass in undisturbed situations where you’ve got powder over a decent base. The couple of times I’ve been on a skiff of snow over a compacted base (such as a sled track) the scales start to do the highway rumble strip annoying thing. I’ve noticed ‘The Herd’- aka snowshoers sink much deeper than me (I’ve also noticed they like to follow my tracks a lot).
A couple of musings…I’d really like to try a wax version of this ski, I suspect it would be considerably smoother. If it was set up with something like an Xskin provision it would become that much more versatile. And if it was set up with a stiffer camber that would be interesting as well. I can’t help but think that if Åsnes offered the Nato in a 270 length it would be an interesting ski (Hello Åsnes, anybody listening?).
One last observation- when I take these off and step onto a 210 ski it’s astounding how nimble you feel in them.
Rant over
The deepest snow (powdery, unpacked) I’ve been in so far this year has been hip deep when I’ve stepped off the Metsäs- so roughly 90 cm. On the skis it looks like I’m averaging 20 cm of sinking in (less than many snowshoe tracks i see in similar conditions). Not bad for a 100 kilo guy (not including 20L pack with various clothes/water/food…
This is a VERY soft ski (camber compression is quite similar to my 205 Ingstad). Due to its length theres some slight banana effect but it didn’t seem to be much of an issue for forward mobility (78 cm of scale per ski likely has much to do with that). Unfortunately this softer camber doesn’t allow for any energy storage like I’ve found in the MR48, Gamme, or USGI. (Sidenote, the stiffest camber I’ve personally encountered was the Alpina Discovery 80 208 length- too stiff). I did find myself wondering if there would be any benefit to stiffening this ski up a bit, some of that energy derived from more camber could be useful. While a person (meaning an older dog like me) can get some kick n’glide out of the Metsä in ideal conditions for awhile I’ve found it far more efficient to use the quads to mobilize these long planks.
As far as turning these skis, a person becomes even more adept at step turns, particularly if you’re on twisty logging roads. If conditions are right (long slope, powdery
snow you can get into a telemark stance and make some long, sweeping turns. I found that as I was getting tired later in the day I’d be keeping both heels down for better control. I don’t think Xplore is the right binding if this was to be a major part of ones Metsä experience, I suspect a 3 pin with cable would be advantageous. Doing snowplough on the descent is pretty tiring after awhile and I’ve had two successful hockey stops in wide open spaces with powder over a consolidated base…and several unsuccessful ones where the first thing you do is look around hoping no one witnessed the epic (aka comical) failure. STAY OFF SINGLETRACK!!! It will not end well.
As far as uphill travel they’ve got decent uphill mobility (that 78 cm of scale per ski shines here). Doing a Herringbone is surprisingly easy with the Metsä and leaves a pretty impressive pattern in the snow. I’ve carried skins with me (they’re 210 in length so the end just past my heel) but haven’t had to use yet.
I’ve glide waxed 3 times now (number 4 today) and maybe its just in my head but I’ve noticed the glide seems to be improving. I’ve had a couple of issues with snow buildup on the scales when it’s getting warmer during the day. Up to this point I’ve used a liquid glide wax to deal with that but I’m thinking of melting some Polar into the grip zone, buffing it in, and seeing how that works to combat buildup. The bases are very soft and easy to gouge so staying away from thin snow conditions is sensible.
My Metsäs were mounted at balance point putting my pin center roughly 150 cm from the tip (thus having about 120 cm from pin center to tail). Apparently using balance point is Peltonen recommended way of mounting. Theme indicates a different formula for mounting that I might consider. I get why Peltonen makes the suggestion they do for enhanced forward mobility in deep snow but I strongly suspect that moving pin center forward a bit would help with control. Another minor point- while these are by no means an asymmetrical ski I’ve had to make a right/left designation otherwise my skis tend to ‘V’ out while traveling…strangely enough they don’t ^ in.
As far as snow travel, they kick ass in undisturbed situations where you’ve got powder over a decent base. The couple of times I’ve been on a skiff of snow over a compacted base (such as a sled track) the scales start to do the highway rumble strip annoying thing. I’ve noticed ‘The Herd’- aka snowshoers sink much deeper than me (I’ve also noticed they like to follow my tracks a lot).
A couple of musings…I’d really like to try a wax version of this ski, I suspect it would be considerably smoother. If it was set up with something like an Xskin provision it would become that much more versatile. And if it was set up with a stiffer camber that would be interesting as well. I can’t help but think that if Åsnes offered the Nato in a 270 length it would be an interesting ski (Hello Åsnes, anybody listening?).
One last observation- when I take these off and step onto a 210 ski it’s astounding how nimble you feel in them.
Rant over
