hemiboreal forest skiing in New Brunswick Canada
- lilcliffy
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Re: hemiboreal forest skiing in New Brunswick Canada
With a meter-and-a-half of snowpack in the woods, below freezing nights, and above freezing afternoons-evenings- spring skiing is full-on here in the Central New Brunswick hills!
We got our first significant rain on Friday, but conditions were still fantabulous late in the day. Forecast is for a cool-cold couple of weeks- thinking we may have spring skiing deep into April.
We got our first significant rain on Friday, but conditions were still fantabulous late in the day. Forecast is for a cool-cold couple of weeks- thinking we may have spring skiing deep into April.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
- lilcliffy
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- Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Lundhags Expedition; Alfa Skaget XP; Scarpa T4
- Occupation: Forestry Professional
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Husband, father, farmer and logger
Re: hemiboreal forest skiing in New Brunswick Canada
Absolutely mind-blowing spring ski touring today- was out on my E99 Tour with 35mm Easy-Skin for hours today- absolutely flying through the hills.
It has been remarkably cold this week- in between a couple of storms. We had several hours of soft snow last night and then snow showers throughout the day with just above freezing temperatures.
With at least a 1.5 metres of the consolidated base the conditions are pure E99. I continue to be underwhelmed by the E99 Crown- didn't feel like using klister this week either- so the 35mm Easy-Skin has been absolutely perfect. E99 with Polar ironed into the entire base- Easy-Skin on top!
Snow conditions on steep terrain is starting to get a bit sketchy this week- though moderate terrain is still very stable.
It has been remarkably cold this week- in between a couple of storms. We had several hours of soft snow last night and then snow showers throughout the day with just above freezing temperatures.
With at least a 1.5 metres of the consolidated base the conditions are pure E99. I continue to be underwhelmed by the E99 Crown- didn't feel like using klister this week either- so the 35mm Easy-Skin has been absolutely perfect. E99 with Polar ironed into the entire base- Easy-Skin on top!
Snow conditions on steep terrain is starting to get a bit sketchy this week- though moderate terrain is still very stable.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
- Woodserson
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Re: hemiboreal forest skiing in New Brunswick Canada
What's the difference? The kick or the glide?lilcliffy wrote:Absolutely mind-blowing spring ski touring today- was out on my E99 Tour with 35mm Easy-Skin for hours today- absolutely flying through the hills.
It has been remarkably cold this week- in between a couple of storms. We had several hours of soft snow last night and then snow showers throughout the day with just above freezing temperatures.
With at least a 1.5 metres of the consolidated base the conditions are pure E99. I continue to be underwhelmed by the E99 Crown- didn't feel like using klister this week either- so the 35mm Easy-Skin has been absolutely perfect. E99 with Polar ironed into the entire base- Easy-Skin on top!
Snow conditions on steep terrain is starting to get a bit sketchy this week- though moderate terrain is still very stable.
I wonder what could be different between our style of skiing/past ski experience/history that we have decidedly different experiences on the E99 Crown. When temperatures are all over the place and/or I'm dealing with klister conditions I go for my E99 Crowns and am usually completely satisfied. I'm 160lbs on the 205cm with nordic rocker. Relatively new ski, about 4yrs old- the blue/black ones.
This is where past experiences I think, can change one's opinions on skis and armchair internet theorizing then meets a limit of vulnerability to interpretation.
This is not, in any way, a critique of your opinion of the skis, it makes me wonder why we see it in such a different light. I have never skied the E99 Tour at all, and maybe I would be heavily swayed if I did try them with a kicker skin and could see the difference first hand. In return I have far less years XC skiing than you and even though I fancy myself fast and able I could be nothing but a skier out for a stroll as opposed to bombing along as you may well be doing by comparison.
Back to my original question at the top, I personally prefer glide over grip. I tend to enjoy less grippy skis and longer glides with a change in kick technique to compensate. What is the limit you are running into with the E99 Crown?
- lilcliffy
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Re: hemiboreal forest skiing in New Brunswick Canada
The difference is definitely the grip. I get as good a glide with the kicker skin- but much better grip. (The kicker skin definitely produces significant drag on cold snow, but that is the domain of grip wax anyway). When the conditions are ideal for double-cambered scales, I get as good a glide with the kicker skin- but, MUCH better grip- especially when climbing. This experience probably has a lot to do with topography- I tend to take in a lot of vertical, even on my E99s.Woodserson wrote: What's the difference? The kick or the glide?
When the conditions are perfect for my E99 Crown, they are great- but, certainly no better than the E99 Tour + Easy-Skin.
I think that part of my challenge in the current weather is that I often miss the "ideal" time of day to ski. It is still very cold here at night and all of that wet snow re-freezes overnight, making the Crown a slippery pain in the arse. If I had a kicker skin for the Crown- they would be better than the Tour at this time of year.
Icy refrozen snow has been of particular concern this week- it has been going down way below freezing at night (was -20C at dawn on the 7th!), and then up to 5C by mid-afternoon.
Early this week, I went for an early morning yo-yo ski with my Koms in a steep field. The base was fantastic and stable but the surface was icy and refrozen. I must admit the traction of the Koms was absolutely freakin useless! I could not set a track on much more than 5% slope! After a couple of rounds, I went back for my Storetinds- with 60mm Skin-Lock. I could climb straight up the slope (30%-40%) with the Skin-Lock. Though I had to take off the Skin-Lock at the top of the hill, I used way less energy and got in way more laps/hour. I am sure the Koms would have been perfect if I had been able to get out that afternoon- but, I had to go into work.
Though I bought my E99 new- they were left-over stock (got em for a steal at $100CAN)- not sure exactly what year they are. They are E99 "Xtralite Crown", but they have no rocker in the tip- they are 210cm. I weigh 185lbs. Perhaps they would be better if they were shorter...But if they were less cambered-stiff for my height, I think that I might as well be on my 205cm E109 Crown.I wonder what could be different between our style of skiing/past ski experience/history that we have decidedly different experiences on the E99 Crown. When temperatures are all over the place and/or I'm dealing with klister conditions I go for my E99 Crowns and am usually completely satisfied. I'm 160lbs on the 205cm with nordic rocker. Relatively new ski, about 4yrs old- the blue/black ones.
And there lies the issue perhaps- perhaps I am using the E99 Tour on terrain that would perhaps be more typically suited to the E109...Full-base grip waxing and the kicker skin are enabling me to tour on terrain that perhaps is a bit much for a 210cm double-cambered touring ski...Perhaps you would choose a less-cambered, more "XCD" ski for the terrain I am using my 210cm E99 Tour...I find I can move some much quicker on the flats with the E99 that I am eager to take it up the ridge as much as I can! (And- if I use the E109 Crown on the same route- they are much better than the E99 Crown- though not as fast as the E99 Tour on the flats.)
I must admit that I love the speed of the E99 Tour so much that when the snow is settled enough to support it, I tend to push it on to terrain that can be less than ideal for its camber and stiffness. The E99 Tour+Easy-Skin with its double-camber underfoot and rockered tip allows me to fly on the flats, climb up hills/ravines/ridges and then rip down hills- all in one ski! But- I need stable consolidated snow to do all of that on the E99.
After all- the E99 is really not designed to offer effective climbing performance- it is a K&G ski, IMO.
Very true.This is where past experiences I think, can change one's opinions on skis and armchair internet theorizing then meets a limit of vulnerability to interpretation.
If I had to choose- the E99 Tour + Easy-Skin is a much better performing and more versatile ski than the E99 Crown. That being said- if my E99 Crown had the Easy-Skin attachment I am sure I would have been using it the last couple of weeks- I am certainly not using kick wax at the moment!This is not, in any way, a critique of your opinion of the skis, it makes me wonder why we see it in such a different light. I have never skied the E99 Tour at all, and maybe I would be heavily swayed if I did try them with a kicker skin and could see the difference first hand.
But, in the end- I guess I am pleased enough with the glide of the Easy-Skin- on wet snow- that I find I don't need the E99 Crown. Without the kicker skin, the E109 Crown is a better ski than the E99 Crown- on the terrain and snow that I am skiing on.
I think it likely that it has more to do with snow conditions, temperatures, and terrain.In return I have far less years XC skiing than you and even though I fancy myself fast and able I could be nothing but a skier out for a stroll as opposed to bombing along as you may well be doing by comparison.
On what kind of terrain are you using the E99 Crown?
Well I definitely love glide- hence my tendency towards very long touring skis. But, if I am out to kick-and-glide-fly I can't stand it if I push down for grip and find that I cannot fully lunge forwards on the other ski. And- again- perhaps I climb more with my 210cm E99 than most?Back to my original question at the top, I personally prefer glide over grip. I tend to enjoy less grippy skis and longer glides with a change in kick technique to compensate. What is the limit you are running into with the E99 Crown?
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
- lilcliffy
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Re: hemiboreal forest skiing in New Brunswick Canada
Spring skiing in the Central New Brunswick hills.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
- fisheater
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Re: hemiboreal forest skiing in New Brunswick Canada
Looks like your ski partner is a hardy northern girl. Hope you had the right skis trying to keep up with her riding those Hoks !
- lilcliffy
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Re: hemiboreal forest skiing in New Brunswick Canada
Maeve is now 4 years old (the youngest of us)- she is hardy- and hard to keep up with. It is getting to the point that I almost have to sneak out of the house to dow anything without her!fisheater wrote:Looks like your ski partner is a hardy northern girl. Hope you had the right skis trying to keep up with her riding those Hoks !
Those kid-sized Balla Hoks are just wonderous backcountry skis for little ones. Lots of grip, decent glide, fantastic flotation. I have watched her do laps on the little hill behind the barn for hours!
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
- lilcliffy
- Posts: 4157
- Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:20 pm
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- Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring
- Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat Nato, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Altai Kom
- Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Lundhags Expedition; Alfa Skaget XP; Scarpa T4
- Occupation: Forestry Professional
Instructor at Maritime College of Forest Technology
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Re: hemiboreal forest skiing in New Brunswick Canada
April 29th was my last day of skiing this season- I could have continued skiing into that week but I had to go into work.
Man the snow has melted here very fast come the first of May! Still lots of snow higher up and further North.
But- my winter is over! And- it was another great one!
Moved the hens out to their summer house- they already out foraging with their manly mates.
Spring chicks are growing and feathering out.
Moved Harry- my boar- out to his summer grounds.
The girls and their piglets are actively tearing up their yard- can smell the fields and woods waking up.
The cattle and sheep are going crazy waiting for fresh greens- they give me a real talking-to about it every morning!
Took the week off to repair all of our fencing.
Winter is over!
All the best- hope you all have a great growing season!
Man the snow has melted here very fast come the first of May! Still lots of snow higher up and further North.
But- my winter is over! And- it was another great one!
Moved the hens out to their summer house- they already out foraging with their manly mates.
Spring chicks are growing and feathering out.
Moved Harry- my boar- out to his summer grounds.
The girls and their piglets are actively tearing up their yard- can smell the fields and woods waking up.
The cattle and sheep are going crazy waiting for fresh greens- they give me a real talking-to about it every morning!
Took the week off to repair all of our fencing.
Winter is over!
All the best- hope you all have a great growing season!
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
- lowangle al
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Re: hemiboreal forest skiing in New Brunswick Canada
Lc, do those little Hoks your daughter is on have the bindings that you can use with a regular boots? If so would you say they work pretty well?
- lilcliffy
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- Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Lundhags Expedition; Alfa Skaget XP; Scarpa T4
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Re: hemiboreal forest skiing in New Brunswick Canada
Hey Al,
Yes my daughter's Balla Hoks have the kid-sized universal binding mounted on them:
http://ca-store.altaiskis.com/product/balla-hok-kids/
They allow the use of any boot- they work very well and are very supportive- and, easy to get in/out of.
Yes my daughter's Balla Hoks have the kid-sized universal binding mounted on them:
http://ca-store.altaiskis.com/product/balla-hok-kids/
They allow the use of any boot- they work very well and are very supportive- and, easy to get in/out of.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.