The Åsnes Thread (News for 2018-2019!)

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Re: The Åsnes Thread (News for 2018-2019!)

Postby Bri7 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:10 pm

Open it! Stop teasing us like that...

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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Postby fisheater » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:43 pm

Woodserson wrote:
lilcliffy wrote:
I am also curious about the two Tind skis.

I am too- what is the difference in performance between the 68/76/86? Obviously the 86 would offer more float than the 68- but if you want a powder ski, why wouldn't you go even wider? PLUS- I am sure all of these skis have different camber/rocker profiles- intended for different snow conditions.

The 68 is intended to be a hybrid between a BC-XC ski and an "AT" ski- what about the 76/86?



I think there is a place for a mid-60 ski, a mid-80 ski, and then a fat ski.

I would love to drive a FT62 around some of our rolling xcD terrain here, like Mount Cardigan, the Jackson Valley Trail, etc. Good free heel lower-angle yet still exciting skiing. It would probably be a perfect fit for this kind of terrain and pair wonderfully with the Alaskas for long days of touring up and down.

Then, when the snow gets deeper or I want to go faster on steeper terrain up it up to the mid-85 ski which is now owned by my Objectives. These are great skis for harder charging in variable snow, and new snow up to 6-8" in plastic boots. After that, we're off to the races with some sort of fat ski. I need a fat ski, I know this now. Something mid-to-high 90's in the waist.

The 76 waisted ski would be a weird one for me.

I for one, have had designs on their fatter plastic-boot friendly skis like the EGGI 98 or TIND 85 (basically what my Objectives are now).



Woods, the FT 62 is a fun ski. I have a very good feel for what the FT 68 must be, from both my experience on the 62 and Gareth's reviews. DON'T ORDER THE 62 short, there is no need unless you are in very tight trees. I agree that the 62 may be better paired with NNN bindings, do not doubt that this ski can be pressed harder with a stiff leather boots and a 3-pin binding.
I would interested in reviews of the 76, but I understand the thought "why go narrowe". From my perspective my old mid-fats had only about a 70 mm waist, and I skied very deep snow in Utah in those days. I know that width has more than enough float, if you point them downhill and just have a little room to turn. Eastern trees are a little too tight in those conditions, and additional width would be critical for climbing. I am hoping that Johnny has a 76 or an 86 in that box, but then I'm still waiting on his review of the Ingstad ;)

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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Postby Johnny » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:55 pm

fisheater wrote:I am hoping that Johnny has a 76 or an 86 in that box,

Not possible. All the Tinds have been in production for a few years now.
The 2 pairs inside that box are prototypes, skis not yet available on the market... 8-)
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Re: The Åsnes Thread (News for 2018-2019!)

Postby Woodserson » Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:51 am

....AAAANNND?....

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Re: The Åsnes Thread (News for 2018-2019!)

Postby Johnny » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:27 am

BEAU-TI-FUL...!!!
Pics coming soon...! (No, it's not T53's...)

ASNES-T53.jpg
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Re: The Åsnes Thread (News for 2018-2019!)

Postby lilcliffy » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:35 am

Translation of Asnes' descriptors of ski flex-camber:

Johnny wrote:
Markedly Wax Pocket = True double camber
Moderate Wax Pocket = Camber and a half
Marked Chamber (FT62, RABB68) = Camber and a half with a lower profile than MWP
Classic Camber (TINDAN86) = Flat, single camber perhaps?

There is no info at all on the wider AT skis, so I suppose no info = single camber...?
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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Postby Woodserson » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:45 am

fisheater wrote:Woods, the FT 62 is a fun ski. I have a very good feel for what the FT 68 must be, from both my experience on the 62 and Gareth's reviews. DON'T ORDER THE 62 short, there is no need unless you are in very tight trees. I agree that the 62 may be better paired with NNN bindings, do not doubt that this ski can be pressed harder with a stiff leather boots and a 3-pin binding.
I would interested in reviews of the 76, but I understand the thought "why go narrowe". From my perspective my old mid-fats had only about a 70 mm waist, and I skied very deep snow in Utah in those days. I know that width has more than enough float, if you point them downhill and just have a little room to turn. Eastern trees are a little too tight in those conditions, and additional width would be critical for climbing. I am hoping that Johnny has a 76 or an 86 in that box, but then I'm still waiting on his review of the Ingstad ;)


Thanks for this fish. I am still interested in the FT62 but am still struggling to figure out my Fischer SBound collection. For 2018-2019 I've settled on a 205cm E99 Crown (I like), a 189cm Traverse 78 (I like), and a 179cm Excursion 88. I think I'm done with the SB98 completely (except for the Boundless Wax, which I like), it was a failed experiment for what I was looking for. The applications I would use the FT62 in are probably going to be covered by the 88. So we'll see how that works. If it doesn't, FT62 is next up on the docket for this niche.

I am very happy with my long touring skis, I am very happy with my telemark skis (Objective, KOM, Atomics), it's this one weird in between that I'm still struggling to make perfect for the longer moderate downhill tours like the Wildcat Valley Trail.

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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Postby lilcliffy » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:49 pm

Woodserson wrote:If it doesn't, FT62 is next up on the docket for this niche.

I am very happy with my long touring skis, I am very happy with my telemark skis (Objective, KOM, Atomics), it's this one weird in between that I'm still struggling to make perfect for the longer moderate downhill tours like the Wildcat Valley Trail.

Why the Asnes 62 and not the 68?
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Re: The Åsnes Thread

Postby Woodserson » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:12 pm

lilcliffy wrote:Why the Asnes 62 and not the 68?


Didn't you talk me out of it for NNN-BC? I think the 62s would be better suited to my Alaska's and the 68's to some sort of 75mm combo. I am light, not strong, and if I recall, we decided that would be a better option. Didn't we?

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Re: The Åsnes Thread (News for 2018-2019!)

Postby lilcliffy » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:36 pm

Hey Woods-
Right- I guess I thought you were still using 3pin on the wider S-Bounds...

I have never been thrilled with either the Epoch or the S-Bound 98- perhaps for different reasons than you- but the Storetind is both a better XC touring ski and a MUCH better downhill ski than any of the conventional "hybrid" skis (e.g. Epoch/S-98/Annum/S-112).

The 68 is torsionally rigid enough that it can be taken to exceptional downhill limits with a full-on telemark boot and binding.

The 68 is even lighter than all of those conventional hybrid skis-

179cm Fischer Excursion 88: 2.280g
180cm Asnes Falketind 68: 2.260kg

There is no reason why it can't be toured with using NNNBC and BC-XC boots- just wouldn't be able to push it to its downhill limits. With a 3-pin binding on the 68 you can swap from soft leather to full-on Tele boots...

Are you using NNNBC on the Fischer 88s?
If your Alaska NNNBC boots are a good fit for the 88, I would think that they would also be a good fit for the 68.

I know that I would love my Alaskas on the 68, but I know that I would not be able to take that ski to its limits with that boot...
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