Sanding the kick zone of waxable backcountry XC skis?

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Re: Sanding the kick zone of waxable backcountry XC skis?

Post by lowangle al » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:30 pm

Good idea to skip it.

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Re: Sanding the kick zone of waxable backcountry XC skis?

Post by fisheater » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:04 pm

JohnSKepler wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:13 pm
I've got a new set of Asnes FT62 I'm looking forward to using in the next month. Maybe the next few days depending on what happens over the weekend. :D

Doing research on waxing turns up a lot of info on sanding, grinding, and structuring. I was really wondering how much of that was appropriate for an amateur warrior just learning to prep waxless and work on Telemark turns. So far, the information from this forum has been excellent and much appreciated. I think I'll skip the base grinding, sanding, and structure for now!

Looking like rain and snow in the valley over the next few days. Should be all snow in the mountains. And so it begins.
John is your FT white or black topsheet? I’ve owned both, well still own the black.



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Re: Sanding the kick zone of waxable backcountry XC skis?

Post by Chisana » Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:30 am

Well, I actually experimented with this on some in track classic skis long ago. Trying to raise some (hairies) for kick wax retention on icy, glazed trails. I noticed no difference, possibly due to my limited skiing ability. On the other hand,klister worked wonders. Keep in mind, this was for intrack skiing,though I have often used klister for backcountry touring in spring like conditions,with good results. Please keep in mind, when I say backcountry touring I am speaking of just heading out on a trail or lake with some ups and some downs, but not touring just for the sake of getting some turns.



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Re: Sanding the kick zone of waxable backcountry XC skis?

Post by JohnSKepler » Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:02 pm

fisheater wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:04 pm
John is your FT white or black topsheet? I’ve owned both, well still own the black.
I have the current Xplore series (says so on the ski!). Black, maybe dark green, top sheet.
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Re: Sanding the kick zone of waxable backcountry XC skis?

Post by fisheater » Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:21 pm

I wouldn’t sand that ski, the camber is relatively low. Grip is good. I am very pleased with my 196 cm set.
I cork in Swix White Polar full length. I have had good success using Rex Universl Tar wax in cold powder snow. I have added Start Oslo waxes for course and wet snows.



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Re: Sanding the kick zone of waxable backcountry XC skis?

Post by JohnSKepler » Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:02 am

fisheater wrote:
Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:21 pm
I wouldn’t sand that ski, the camber is relatively low. Grip is good. I am very pleased with my 196 cm set.
I cork in Swix White Polar full length. I have had good success using Rex Universl Tar wax in cold powder snow. I have added Start Oslo waxes for course and wet snows.
Interesting. Is that the V05 Polar? So you cork in a kickwax the entire length of the ski? I would think that would affect the glide/slide...
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Re: Sanding the kick zone of waxable backcountry XC skis?

Post by CwmRaider » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:03 pm

Yes, the whole ski with hard V05 polar kick wax. It just works, until you get into too cold temperatures:D
See this thread here:
http://telemarktalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=2172



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