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fisheater
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by fisheater » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:35 am
Cannatonic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:53 pm
very psyched about this development! A thinner cable would be cool too but this provides more options. It looks like the cable is removable with a screwdriver. You can put on your Rifuguios and tackle serious terrain w/ the cable if needed
Canna, I don’t mean to go on a major thread drift, but where would a Rifugulo be say in relation to an Alico Ski March and a Crispi Antarctic?
Also can somebody with experience on this Rotte cable explain to me how it tours better than a Voile 3-P cable, which I really don’t care for unless the cable is in my pack. I usually am ready for a breather before a downhill, I don’t mind clipping the cables on if I think they will help.
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phoenix
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by phoenix » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:42 pm
Johnny,
I had (and mounted a bunch of) Rotte Super Tele's in the 80's; they were the Super Telemark toe piece with a front throw (!) cable... was there a generation between that and the various Chili's with a heel clip?
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bgregoire
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by bgregoire » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:01 pm
fisheater wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:35 am
Canna, I don’t mean to go on a major thread drift, but where would a Rifugulo be say in relation to an Alico Ski March and a Crispi Antarctic?
Also can somebody with experience on this Rotte cable explain to me how it tours better than a Voile 3-P cable, which I really don’t care for unless the cable is in my pack. I usually am ready for a breather before a downhill, I don’t mind clipping the cables on if I think they will help.
The Rifugio fits in the middle of the two other boots you mentioned sole stiffness wise.
The ST (Rotte) is a better tourer than the Voile counterparts, and I am not the only one to think this. I won't go into the physics though. The ST + Cable = the best 3pin touring with added beef for the down when required. Good stuff!
I live for the Telemark arc....The feeeeeeel.....I ski miles to get to a place where there is guaranteed snow to do the deal....TM
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Woodserson
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by Woodserson » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:59 am
Anyone find any in North America, yet? Long...
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Nick BC
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by Nick BC » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:58 am
Woods, I’ve ordered a pair from Telemark Pyrénées and they emailed me yesterday to say they wouldn’t be available until mid December. So it looks like a short wait. Adventure Nordique also has them on their site but not yet available.
I’m planning to mount them with Voile Traverse shims on my G3 Stinger XCDs and ski them with T3’s and Ski March.
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Johnny
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by Johnny » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:42 pm
phoenix wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:42 pm
Johnny,
I had (and mounted a bunch of) Rotte Super Tele's in the 80's; they were the Super Telemark toe piece with a front throw (!) cable... was there a generation between that and the various Chili's with a heel clip?
Oh! You are right... Mine are the ones with front throw cables too...
Woodserson wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:59 am
Anyone find any in North America, yet? Long...
I was ready to order a few pairs for you guys... But at this ridiculous price, I have absolutely no interest at all...
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fisheater
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by fisheater » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:49 pm
The Rifugio fits in the middle of the two other boots you mentioned sole stiffness wise.
The ST (Rotte) is a better tourer than the Voile counterparts, and I am not the only one to think this. I won't go into the physics though. The ST + Cable = the best 3pin touring with added beef for the down when required. Good stuff!
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Thank you Ben.
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Cannatonic
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by Cannatonic » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:58 pm
fisheater wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:35 am
Canna, I don’t mean to go on a major thread drift, but where would a Rifugulo be say in relation to an Alico Ski March and a Crispi Antarctic?
Also can somebody with experience on this Rotte cable explain to me how it tours better than a Voile 3-P cable, which I really don’t care for unless the cable is in my pack. I usually am ready for a breather before a downhill, I don’t mind clipping the cables on if I think they will help.
yes Rifugio is between the Antarctic and Ski March - probably closer to Antarctic. This new Rottefella Chili-type binding cartridge looks to have big springs inside, I would expect it to be much stronger tension than the simple Voile 3pin cable and quite a bit heavier too. In fact it looks like Rotte's version of the Voile Hardwire binding. This one offer lowers risers if you want or an option for higher ones which is cool.
Another question - can the heel/cable unit be attached to existing Super Tele bindings???
"All wisdom is to be gained through suffering"
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Tele2$room2$broom
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by Tele2$room2$broom » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:00 pm
Cannatonic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:53 pm
It looks like the cable is removable with a screwdriver. You can put on your Rifuguios and tackle serious terrain w/ the cable if needed
Or else you would need a grinder... No kidding, you can take them off easy without tools...
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Madshus1
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by Madshus1 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:55 am
I love my Rotte ST's but $100 more for cables and a heel throw little steep I'd think when you can buy a set of Voiles with cables for $125 or less.
