Sutton, novembre 22th 2016

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Re: Sutton, novembre 22th 2016

Post by lilcliffy » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:09 am

LoveJohnny wrote: That said, I have been working on ways to improve the old NNNBC binding. It's cool from a technical POV, but my conclusion is that too much power is overkill for XCD...
Hi Johnny,

Are you going to reveal the details of this? :idea:

Is this the "big news" in NNNBC that you mentioned a while back?
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Re: Sutton, novembre 22th 2016

Post by lilcliffy » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:03 pm

LJ-

Have you tried the Objective BC yet?
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Re: Sutton, novembre 22th 2016

Post by MikeK » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:41 am

Really what I want to know is how Bri liked the NNN. And what boots and skis he was using.



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Re: Sutton, novembre 22th 2016

Post by Bri7 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:23 am

Hey Mike!

I'm using Alpina Snowfield NNNBC. I'm wearing size 47, it's pretty hard for me to find deals at my size on the internet... When a saw that pair of NNN on eaby at 60$ I couldn't say no to these. They are a bit lower and softer than Johnny's Alaska. Of course I could have buy a brand new pair of Alaska's... I didn't like the idea of spending 300$ for something I was not sure to fully appreciate.

Since I don't own any NNN ski yet I borrowed Johnny's guides. At ~1m75 they are a lot shorter than what I normally use (1m95). The NNN mechanism is great for uphill even though I had a hard time getting those skis up the hill. The length of the fishscale pattern on the 1m75 was just too short to give enough traction at 245 lbs.

On the downhill side, the boots compared very well with my Alico 3 pins. Its really hard to draw a conclusion on the second ski day of the season. I haven't not yet recover my balance and reflexes plus I was really exhausted from the climbing. My legs where not as quick as usual. The front bumper on the binding gives a interesting compromise between the cable and free flex of the pure 3 pins.

Hey I did survive my first day after a few bails :) I guess I can only get better from now on. I can't wait to try new Johnny's modified NNN :)



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Re: Sutton, novembre 22th 2016

Post by MikeK » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:00 pm

It looks like you adapted pretty well!

Must be time to buy a pair of bindings for one of your skis... do you still have your red Annums?



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Re: Sutton, novembre 22th 2016

Post by Johnny » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:15 am

Haven't mounted the Objectives yet... I will post a little something about my improvement on the NNN bindings... But I haven't done much yet... It's just ideas, as I don't have the tools to do anything... If only Bri7 could quit his job and start building bindings full time...!
Since I don't own any NNN ski yet I borrowed Johnny's guides
Actually, you skied with my 10th Mtns that day... What will it take for me to convince you that the trick with telemark is to have both feet weighted equally, 50/50? (Gee, for some strange reason Bri7 still beleive that the weight should be 100% on the front feet... Complete non-sense!) 8-) :lol:
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Re: Sutton, novembre 22th 2016

Post by lilcliffy » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:50 pm

LoveJohnny wrote:... What will it take for me to convince you that the trick with telemark is to have both feet weighted equally, 50/50?
TRUTH!
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Re: Sutton, novembre 22th 2016

Post by Bri7 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:27 pm

Since I don't own any NNN ski yet I borrowed Johnny's guides
Actually, you skied with my 10th Mtns that day... What will it take for me to convince you that the trick with telemark is to have both feet weighted equally, 50/50? (Gee, for some strange reason Bri7 still beleive that the weight should be 100% on the front feet... Complete non-sense!) 8-) :lol:[/quote]

One day i'll write a book entitled "Met ton astie de poids sur ta jambe d'en avant" and it's going to revolutionize the telemark world (and I'll be able to ski over rivers in the pre-season without bailing)... But till then I guess I'll have to listen to your advice.



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Re: Sutton, novembre 22th 2016

Post by Johnny » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:21 pm

Bri7 wrote:One day i'll write a book entitled "Met ton astie de poids sur ta jambe d'en avant" and it's going to revolutionize the telemark world (and I'll be able to ski over rivers in the pre-season without bailing)... But till then I guess I'll have to listen to your advice.
There is a difference between putting your downhill ski in the front, ("Le Telemark par Johnny: Crisser son pied en avant!") and once you made the transition, then you weight both feet equally... Once the weight transfer is done, you need to be strong and stable... Not wiggling and wobbling one one foot...
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Re: Sutton, novembre 22th 2016

Post by Rodbelan » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:22 pm

Bri7, It was good skiing... with nnn! Geez I am impressed... My comment was not aimed at laughing at your skiing, but more at your expression. Thought it was funny: «les asties de rivières»!I think you guys convinced to try it at least... I will probably fail even if there is no «asties de rivières»...
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