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Mrs anemic and I finally got out a week late. A nice Saturday evening cruising a hilly local golf course with tele turns to be had in many spots.
Here's a flat spot. The only place on the gc with a nice skied in track. Elsewhere it had been trod upon by evilshoers.
Sunday afternoon we hit a local trail center that feeds into a defunct rope tow hill. First tracks.
Skintrack & tele tracks.
She rides Epoch waxless with stiff new leather Garmonts. Loves em. A little slow tho. Voile Mountaineer binding.
I finally fell in love with the new Eon waxables I got last year. LOVED them today! The tips have enough float to pop up and flex into a turn. Cruising speed on skied-in tracks is high with my full length narrow strip mohair skins. Inadvertently dropped a large group and Mrs anemic. And they are fun to turn. A fine combination with my old Merrell leathers (stiffness factor is similar to my bedroom slippers) and Voile Mountaineers. It's funny that this is a good system because those Eons are quite stiff.
We are looking forward to next time & I hope you are too!
Defunct rope tow? I ski the Big M near Wellston, which has trails leading right to the top of the hill, just where the lifts operated years ago. A nice trail leading to the downhill covers all three letters XC and D. The one nice thing about Michigan is that people either do XC or D. I can run laps in front of XC skiers at the Big M, and I will have the only S's .
Looks like a nice weekend., I made it out yesterday.
Cheers
looks like a great spot! those are not Eons in the first pic - what are they? old Kharus or E99's?? Love this type of skiing, I wish we'd get some snow around here.
"All wisdom is to be gained through suffering"
-Will Lange (quoting Inuit chieftan)
Thanks MikeK!
Cannatonic - It sure is hard when we have to watch others ski while we wait. I hope you get some soon! On Saturday I skied my Karhu XCD GTs purchased here from Johnny Love. They are fun for K&G but for turning...I don't have the hang of them yet. Close though!
cool, the XCD dimensions are the same as E99's but they may be stiffer. I find I have to avoid the urge to force the skis into turns. When I'm ready to turn I sort of crouch down and bend one knee, and then lean back, exert a gentle steering motion, and wait for the skis to arc their way across the fall line. I'm not able to do the up-down weighting and unweighting I normally do on skis & snowboards. Hoping to progress to jumping the skis around in shorter turns this year.
"All wisdom is to be gained through suffering"
-Will Lange (quoting Inuit chieftan)
It helps to be going mach 1 with the skinnies. Then you can use your inertial force to bend them a bit.
It's the same trend you'll see with any ski pretty much - less sidecut and more camber needs more speed to really get them to bend whereas the shaplier skis turn at little more than k+g pace.
I agree with Canna - everytime I force a ski, I get a shit result. XC skis love for you to be smooth and deliberate with them IMO.
I try to do what Canna says too, except the lean back part. That usually puts me right in the back seat and my front leg gets too far ahead, and stiff, and it's kind of loss of control from there. I try my best to put my weight perpendicular to the slope when I crouch down and keep my front knee over the BOF - that's the magic line in my mind between being centered and being in the back seat. Don't know if it's really "the line", but I feel a huge difference there. Leather boots don't have any forward cant in them like plastic Alpine, so it's up to you to maintain that stance. And with Alpine you could always tell if you were in the backseat if your calf was banging the boot spoiler. No cuffs to pressure... just have to find your body's natural lines and tilt it to reflect the slope angle...
Your turns look great with the Eons - those Karhus are never going to be as easy as they are, and shapelier skis will only bite harder and arc tighter than the Eon.
Mike - I think you're right, when I focus on "leaning back" it's really "staying centered" vs. alpine skiing & snowboarding where I lean forward aggressively into the front of the boots. With wimpy boots you can't lean forward or back very much.
"All wisdom is to be gained through suffering"
-Will Lange (quoting Inuit chieftan)
