ski recommendation

[MSU Alum]

In 1970 I was skiing backcountry on wooden skis with Silveretta bindings and mountaineering boots in the Crazy Mountains north of Livingston Montana.

It was fun.

I won't be going back.
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The 70's; wooden skis, Silvretta bindings. Good times. The best thing about the 70's was that the snowmobiles of the time couldn't really venture into the high country. It was a place of solitude and untracked snow. It fondly lives on in my memory.Tom at snow cave 1975.jpg
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The other great thing about the '70's was that I wasn't almost in my 70's!
Nice picture!
Where was that?
Nice YouTube channel, BTW.

[Woodserson]

Between MSU_ALUM's retro stories and TomM's retro pictures I'm freaking out at the radness going on.

[freethemind]

Here's your solution, actually:

https://summitcone.com/

Get the Pariah 97 in a 177 and Bob's Your Uncle. Peace of mind, nice flex, done and done.

Thanks for the suggestion - they look good but I'm looking something a bit narrower. Maybe no more than 95 underfoot. The problem I find is that most of the reviews for "good" all mountain skis are reasonably stiff and it's quite difficult to figure out from these reviews how stiff/soft the skis are!

So I guess mantra m5, enforcer etc are out and I have to start my research all over again!

[voilenerd]

If your looking to go with Voile I would recommend the V6 or Ultravectors. I own the hypervectors, and V6s. I ski with the axl bindings on the v6 and have the Voile Hardwires on the Hypervectors. The V6 is a bit softer and easier to turn in the trees or steeper terrain and rips in soft snow. The vectors however do better on harder snow and kick and glide better then the V6. I tried the ultravectors in the aspen core and seem to like those better then my hyper vectors. Less chatter it seems on the aspen core when going down steep hardpack. So I caved in and ordered some lynx/ultravectors bcs. I know I have an addiction.

By the way I would not recommend Summit Cone, just my 2cents. Had a set and ended up returning them due to manfucture issues with wavy bases. Waited 6 months for the skis to arrive and ended up dissappointed. Skied way too stiff and were difficult to turn on steeps. I found my self side stepping turns or slowing way down because how stiff those skis were.

[Tom M]

The other great thing about the '70's was that I wasn't almost in my 70's!
Nice picture!
Where was that?
Nice YouTube channel, BTW.

Great Montana Ski story. The photo was taken in the Absaroka's of Wyoming. We would build a snow cave as a base and spend a week skiing the nearby slopes. I was very proud of that orange wind/snow outfit. I sewed it myself out of that new fangled ripstop. It made a great cover for the wool knicker. I had a bunch left over from an expedition tent.

[Woodserson]

If your looking to go with Voile I would recommend the V6 or Ultravectors. I own the hypervectors, and V6s. I ski with the axl bindings on the v6 and have the Voile Hardwires on the Hypervectors. The V6 is a bit softer and easier to turn in the trees or steeper terrain and rips in soft snow. The vectors however do better on harder snow and kick and glide better then the V6. I tried the ultravectors in the aspen core and seem to like those better then my hyper vectors. Less chatter it seems on the aspen core when going down steep hardpack. So I caved in and ordered some lynx/ultravectors bcs. I know I have an addiction.

By the way I would not recommend Summit Cone, just my 2cents. Had a set and ended up returning them due to manfucture issues with wavy bases. Waited 6 months for the skis to arrive and ended up dissappointed. Skied way too stiff and were difficult to turn on steeps. I found my self side stepping turns or slowing way down because how stiff those skis were.

First, I am going to second the above: I am over-the-moon-in-LOVE with my V6's. They are like the magic ski of magicness. Impossible to explain until you get on them real low and snake through the trees like a deadly viper!

However, I don't like them too much on firm hard groomed, they are fine and doable but don't spark joy in these conditions, but that's to be expected in a ski that doesn't have a lot of effective sidecut on the cambered portions of the ski (the rockered, shaped portion remains airborn). But if you're skiing mostly soft snow this ski is the SUN conquering the NIGHT.

Second: Thank you very much for your thoughts on the SC... you got the Pariah right? Did you find them to flex stiffer than the Ultravector? I was actually going to go look at a pair today, and do some fingernail biting.

[MSU Alum]

The other great thing about the '70's was that I wasn't almost in my 70's!
Nice picture!
Where was that?
Nice YouTube channel, BTW.

Great Montana Ski story. The photo was taken in the Absaroka's of Wyoming. We would build a snow cave as a base and spend a week skiing the nearby slopes. I was very proud of that orange wind/snow outfit. I sewed it myself out of that new fangled ripstop. It made a great cover for the wool knicker. I had a bunch left over from an expedition tent.Tom's home sewn winter expedition tent 1975.jpg

I do love the Absaroka's, and the Beartooth range!

Sorry about hijacking the thread!

[freethemind]

I will spend most of my time skiing in the East Coast and probably 70% of the time on the slopes so I guess I wouldn't need skis that are too soft but softer than their alpine counterpart?

[MSU Alum]

I will spend most of my time skiing in the East Coast and probably 70% of the time on the slopes so I guess I wouldn't need skis that are too soft but softer than their alpine counterpart?

I wouldn't buy a pair of world cup GS skis, but honestly, I don't think there's any need to "downgrade" on stiffness, particularly torsional stiffness. If you are primarily skiing out east, on piste, a reasonably stiff pair of skis will be able to handle the conditions much better than softer skis.

If I lived out east, with one pair of skis, I'd seriously consider something like the Rossignol Experience 88.

I have not skied them, but I'm on the EXP 84 AI out west and it carves up a storm! I believe they come with a 1 degree bottom bevel and a 1 degree side bevel. I've tuned all of my skis to 1 degree/3 degrees for better edging - since tele does reduce that edge grip a bit - and love the results. I think the 88 is a stiffer ski that the 84, so out east it would probably be a good option. I think at your ht/wt, I'd consider 180cm in length, mounted boot center over the recommended mount point.

If you were interested in something a little more off piste capable, I'd consider the Blizzard Rustler 9. I have the 10 and it's magnificent! I believe the Blizzards come 1 degree/3 degree from the factory. Again, 180cm should be good, and boot center over recommended mounting point.

EXP 88 Ti:
https://www.skiessentials.com/Chairlift ... ki-Review/

Rustler 9:
https://www.skiessentials.com/Chairlift ... ki-review/

Good luck!

[Tom M]

I'm in my 2nd year skiing Voile's Hyper V6 BC. I give it 3 thumbs up for the soft snow we see here in Northwest Wyoming. If you haven't already, check out this other thread in the ski review section https://www.telemarktalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1128