Will NNNBC handle this?
- fisheater
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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?
I agree with everything Woods had to say. Although I’m not a big fan of my Fischer S-112, it will do what you are asking for. So if you can find a S-112 or S-98 used add them to the list. The S-112 will shuffle along, it will climb, and it is nice in soft snow going downhill.
Re: Will NNNBC handle this?
Woodsersin I was not aware of that sizing oddity, thank you for bringing it up.
I can still get away with small bc binding on some of these wider skis?
Will definitely want something with scales as I have no interest in dealing with skins
I can still get away with small bc binding on some of these wider skis?
Will definitely want something with scales as I have no interest in dealing with skins
- lilcliffy
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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?
https://www.gearx.com/madshus-epoch-68-bc-ski-f16
https://www.gearx.com/madshus-panorama-m62-intelligrip
https://www.gearx.com/madshus-annum-78-bc-ski-f16
https://www.akers-ski.com/product/17K798.html
I would strongly consider the Eon/Panorama 62
The Epoch and the Annum are single cambered and round flexing.
If you don't care about Xc performance- then the Epoch/Annum- the Annum if you weigh more than a hobbit.
https://www.gearx.com/madshus-panorama-m62-intelligrip
https://www.gearx.com/madshus-annum-78-bc-ski-f16
https://www.akers-ski.com/product/17K798.html
I would strongly consider the Eon/Panorama 62
The Epoch and the Annum are single cambered and round flexing.
If you don't care about Xc performance- then the Epoch/Annum- the Annum if you weigh more than a hobbit.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
- fisheater
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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?
That is a nice starter package from Akers, however I would check into the possibility of getting manual NNN-BC bindings as opposed to the auto bindings in the package
- lilcliffy
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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?
The Epoch/Annum have a lot of sidecut, are single-cambered, and have a soft, smooth, round flex. They are totally dead when XC skiing on consolidated snow. The Annum is actually quite a decent XC ski in deep soft snow- if you get em long enough. The Epoch is really the same if you are a very light skier. At 175+lbs I find the Epoch totally unstable.
The Eon:
- less sidecut
- more camber and tension underfoot
- track groove
- longer lengths
Compared to a double-cambered ski the Eon is fairly dead on consolidated snow as well- but MUCH better than the Epoch/Annum- and with less sidecut and a track groove, the Eon tracks much better.
The Eon is also only 62mm and therfore easily put on edge with a soft XC boot.
The Eon:
- less sidecut
- more camber and tension underfoot
- track groove
- longer lengths
Compared to a double-cambered ski the Eon is fairly dead on consolidated snow as well- but MUCH better than the Epoch/Annum- and with less sidecut and a track groove, the Eon tracks much better.
The Eon is also only 62mm and therfore easily put on edge with a soft XC boot.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
- lilcliffy
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- Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Lundhags Expedition; Alfa Skaget XP; Scarpa T4
- Occupation: Forestry Professional
Instructor at Maritime College of Forest Technology
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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?
BTW-
I just flexed the current Rossi BC 80/100.
These are not stiff double-cambered skis (not that there is anything wrong with a double-cambered ski- depends on intended use).
Both of these skis are less-cambered and softer-rounder flexing than the Fischer 78/88 (the outgoing Rossi BC90 is a rebadged Fischer 88).
I think that even the Madshus Eon has more resistance underfoot than the current Rossi BC80...
I am not sure why these skis get shiet on so much on this site- they look like perfectly decent light BC Nordic touring skis.
Are they "high-performance"- compared to other options out there no..
The waxless bases still look kinda crappy in terms of grip- but the reports on the current Asnes WL design sounds similar- and although many love the Fischer Offtrack Crown (myself included)- many skiers find the Offtrack Crown to grippy and not glidey enough- preferring the older Fischer scale designs- the Rossis might be just fine.
The Rossi BC ski are good value from my perspective.
I just flexed the current Rossi BC 80/100.
These are not stiff double-cambered skis (not that there is anything wrong with a double-cambered ski- depends on intended use).
Both of these skis are less-cambered and softer-rounder flexing than the Fischer 78/88 (the outgoing Rossi BC90 is a rebadged Fischer 88).
I think that even the Madshus Eon has more resistance underfoot than the current Rossi BC80...
I am not sure why these skis get shiet on so much on this site- they look like perfectly decent light BC Nordic touring skis.
Are they "high-performance"- compared to other options out there no..
The waxless bases still look kinda crappy in terms of grip- but the reports on the current Asnes WL design sounds similar- and although many love the Fischer Offtrack Crown (myself included)- many skiers find the Offtrack Crown to grippy and not glidey enough- preferring the older Fischer scale designs- the Rossis might be just fine.
The Rossi BC ski are good value from my perspective.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?
I had the Rossi BC70’s. By the end of the first season I realized the scale on them is pretty wimpy and I had to start using skins whenever I had to do any climb more than 5 - 10 degrees.
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Re: Will NNNBC handle this?
BTW - if you decide to go with a 3 Pin binding, I have a NIB pair of Alpina Alaskas in a size 45 looking for a new home.