Fischer E-99 getting a makeover/name change?

[Woodserson]

Me no like new name.

Me want this ski with more stable shovel, trad raised tip, much less Nordic rocker, Off-Track Crown insert and kicker-skin insert.

I might see if I can get my Gamme 54 BC to shag my E99 Crown Xtralite and then clone the most favourable of the offspring...

Except for the Offtrack Crown option, you've just described the Teal Man I think. Yesterday I did a side by side of the E99 Xtralite and the Green Man, and I felt the weaker tip of the former and the more rigid but heavier shovel of the latter... I totally saw the appeal of the lighter Teal Man and having less weight forward without compromising stiffness... A combination of both skis. Now if it wasn't for the hideous graphic.

[Eärendil]

Me no like new name.

Me want this ski with more stable shovel, trad raised tip, much less Nordic rocker, Off-Track Crown insert and kicker-skin insert.

I might see if I can get my Gamme 54 BC to shag my E99 Crown Xtralite and then clone the most favourable of the offspring...

Except for the Offtrack Crown option, you've just described the Teal Man I think. Yesterday I did a side by side of the E99 Xtralite and the Green Man, and I felt the weaker tip of the former and the more rigid but heavier shovel of the latter... I totally saw the appeal of the lighter Teal Man and having less weight forward without compromising stiffness... A combination of both skis. Now if it wasn't for the hideous graphic.

Maybe we can ask Åsnes to make a GMTO (Group Made To Order)? Keep the Gamme spec but with a longer waxless base pattern than the regular Åsnes WL. Then drop the current graphics and make it more inline with Combat Nato or MT51. ”The Telemark Ski”?

How many are interested?

//Rickard//

[jkenned8]

I have an old, old pair of E99s from perhaps the 90s, wondering about resources on best bindings, etc. A web site for this research would be great appreciated (can't upload photo otherwise I would!).

[dhdaines]

The first wood-core fiberglass top sheet/abs running surface full (aluminum) metal edged XC ski sold by Fischer was the "Europa 77", circa 1976. It has a white topsheet with red logo and trim, iirc. It was replaced within a couple of years by the first green top-sheet, aluminum edged Europa 99. Same ski, tiny bit different dimensions, different name and color.

Aha! I was wondering why I couldn't find info about "Europa 79" anywhere, I totally misremembered everything about these skis... sounds like they weren't racing skis either I remember reading about them in the Canadian Ski Marathon book, at the time when the CSM was an actual race, a lot of people were skiing on Europa 77s.

[fisheater]

I have an old, old pair of E99s from perhaps the 90s, wondering about resources on best bindings, etc. A web site for this research would be great appreciated (can't upload photo otherwise I would!).

NNN-BC manual bindings, you could use the NNN-BC Magnum as well, it is the same template, but the base is wider and will hang over the sides of the ski.
Two other options are Rottefella Super Telemark and Voile Heavy Duty Mountaineer, both of which are 75 mm bindings.

[lilcliffy]

Me no like new name.

Me want this ski with more stable shovel, trad raised tip, much less Nordic rocker, Off-Track Crown insert and kicker-skin insert.

I might see if I can get my Gamme 54 BC to shag my E99 Crown Xtralite and then clone the most favourable of the offspring...

Except for the Offtrack Crown option, you've just described the Teal Man I think. Yesterday I did a side by side of the E99 Xtralite and the Green Man, and I felt the weaker tip of the former and the more rigid but heavier shovel of the latter... I totally saw the appeal of the lighter Teal Man and having less weight forward without compromising stiffness... A combination of both skis. Now if it wasn't for the hideous graphic.

Maybe we can ask Åsnes to make a GMTO (Group Made To Order)? Keep the Gamme spec but with a longer waxless base pattern than the regular Åsnes WL. Then drop the current graphics and make it more inline with Combat Nato or MT51. ”The Telemark Ski”?

How many are interested?

//Rickard//

VERY interested.
Once Asnes has perfected a waxless-scaled verson of the Gamme 54 I will have one.
I don't know if I would call it the "Telemark ski" though...
I think that the Nansen is Asnes' old-school Telemark ski.
The Gamme- as is the E99 (oops does this ski still exist )- is more XC-oriented from my perspective.
The E99 is a fantastic BC-XCd ski in hilly terrain, but I still consider it a XC ski.

[lilcliffy]

Me no like new name.

Me want this ski with more stable shovel, trad raised tip, much less Nordic rocker, Off-Track Crown insert and kicker-skin insert.

I might see if I can get my Gamme 54 BC to shag my E99 Crown Xtralite and then clone the most favourable of the offspring...

Except for the Offtrack Crown option, you've just described the Teal Man I think. Yesterday I did a side by side of the E99 Xtralite and the Green Man, and I felt the weaker tip of the former and the more rigid but heavier shovel of the latter... I totally saw the appeal of the lighter Teal Man and having less weight forward without compromising stiffness... A combination of both skis. Now if it wasn't for the hideous graphic.

Yes- I know this is a thread about the loss of a legendary name- a brand
(But I do hate Asnes' move towards putting a fashion magazine cover on the ski- I am glad that I usually too mesmerized by the skiing and the scenery to notice it too much!)

[bgregoire]

VERY interested.
Once Asnes has perfected a waxless-scaled verson of the Gamme 54 I will have one.
I don't know if I would call it the "Telemark ski" though...
I think that the Nansen is Asnes' old-school Telemark ski.
The Gamme- as is the E99 (oops does this ski still exist )- is more XC-oriented from my perspective.
The E99 is a fantastic BC-XCd ski in hilly terrain, but I still consider it a XC ski.

I was under the impression the Asnes Nansen AND Amundsen (Rago) were both downhill oriented telemark skis in their earlier days. At least that's what Pinnah said:

http://web.archive.org/web/201510021509 ... -skis.html

Or what I thought he said.

[1EyedJack]

The first wood-core fiberglass top sheet/abs running surface full (aluminum) metal edged XC ski sold by Fischer was the "Europa 77", circa 1976. It has a white topsheet with red logo and trim, iirc. It was replaced within a couple of years by the first green top-sheet, aluminum edged Europa 99. Same ski, tiny bit different dimensions, different name and color.

Aha! I was wondering why I couldn't find info about "Europa 79" anywhere, I totally misremembered everything about these skis... sounds like they weren't racing skis either I remember reading about them in the Canadian Ski Marathon book, at the time when the CSM was an actual race, a lot of people were skiing on Europa 77s.

My Europa 99s in the early '80s.
Who says their not a racing ski?

[greatgt]

99's can race....just look at the last picture!!!!!!!! Remember when they had Tele Fests?.....Those were fun...Where the hell is Biff????....Tucks on 99 Europa's.....Screaming, huge, high speed arcs....Gotta say it....The KTB in a competition with 4 boarders....Lunch Rocks crowd got a wicked show....Beers and er....anyway talking to a young female boarder and having a great time when she whips off her shirt and bares er chest....WOW.....Tele heaven!!!! Twant me....twas the TURN......wicked good! Good memories for an oldie...TM