3 pin toe screw backing out.. again

[Shirefisher]

My size and ability may be out witting the Koms... I just had them remounted but after 1.5 hours on some fluff covered ice it's backing out again...

[phoenix]

Can't see anything about the screw from the pic; I wonder if it's loosening, or actually pulling out, which would be a little different story. Sounds like a three hole, flat mount just might not be enough for you. Where did you bring them for the re-mount? They'd probably re-re-mount the binding.

[TallGrass]

My size and ability may be out witting the Koms... I just had them remounted but after 1.5 hours on some fluff covered ice it's backing out again...

First, ID the screw. Many are Pozi (#3) and NOT Phillips.
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1871&p=53435&hilit=Pozidriv#p53435




With the correct driver, see if you can retorque it. If so, remove and use a thread locker like wood glue, insert screw, and with light pressure UNscrew (turn CCW) until you feel a drop of the threads aligning, note mark on driver and turn another 360 to verify, then screw in (CW). This will prevent cross-threading.

If stripped, go with inserts and follow directions. Do not just try more "glue".

[Krummholz]

So just to be clear, the single front screw is coming out? Are you skiing Tele or Altai ( sitting in chair with Tiak ) style?
If you’re skiing Altai you are probably applying to much upward leverage on the front screw.

[Shirefisher]

So just to be clear, the single front screw is coming out? Are you skiing Tele or Altai ( sitting in chair with Tiak ) style?
If you’re skiing Altai you are probably applying to much upward leverage on the front screw.

I do the Tiak thing, so yes I guess I'm putting too much tourque upwards on my down hill runs...
I wonder if an upgrade to a 3 pin with a riser would help.

[Shirefisher]

Can't see anything about the screw from the pic; I wonder if it's loosening, or actually pulling out, which would be a little different story. Sounds like a three hole, flat mount just might not be enough for you. Where did you bring them for the re-mount? They'd probably re-re-mount the binding.

Yea I think I'm too much for the flush mount. I may have to upgrade the binding or just cement them in till they break.

[Shirefisher]

In all honesty these are kom 150's and I beat them down as my rock skis and today was no exception skiing hard ice with an inch of fluff skimming rocks, branches and mud, maybe a few sparks...

[Shirefisher]

My size and ability may be out witting the Koms... I just had them remounted but after 1.5 hours on some fluff covered ice it's backing out again...

First, ID the screw. Many are Pozi (#3) and NOT Phillips.
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1871&p=53435&hilit=Pozidriv#p53435




With the correct driver, see if you can retorque it. If so, remove and use a thread locker like wood glue, insert screw, and with light pressure UNscrew (turn CCW) until you feel a drop of the threads aligning, note mark on driver and turn another 360 to verify, then screw in (CW). This will prevent cross-threading.

If stripped, go with inserts and follow directions. Do not just try more "glue".

Sounds like a plan! If- Who am I kidding, when I upgrade to another bigger pair of Koms- all of these things need to happen. Inserts, and upgraded bindings with risers of sorts.

[phoenix]

You kingdom boys are tough on gear. You're thinking in the right direction: you're a big guy on a wide ski skiing hard on three pins; you need a bomber mount. You could mount your 3 pins on a 4 hole, 10 (or20)mm Voile riser. That would be better than a flat mount, but it's still 3 screws on the pins, which could come out of the riser (beer that than the ski).

Ain't no shame in doing what you're doing with a cable binding with a straight 4 (or 6!) hole mount. Right springs, or right settings, and in my experience/opinion, tour fine, on decent trails or bush thrashing.

[fisheater]

If you decide to keep skiing without remounting, a little steel wool and epoxy will allow you to turn that screw tight again.
Even if the thread is loose, it will tighten up with the steel wool filler.