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@marco , late answer, of course not, go right ahead!
I'll get some photos up later but the skis did work great in the trips that I've done (mostly fresh 10-15cm fresh snow on top of harder stuff). The skins really are very easy to attach and remove. The only thing I've noticed is that the skin glue/tape leaves a surface that's almost like razor thin grip wax after removal, so it feels like my downhill speed isn't as quick as it should be. not sure why.
I managed to find a pair of dirt cheap Fischer (Sbound?) Outbound Crown BC (70-60-65) 189cm. So me and the GF did some back to back comparisons both with and without pulling a pulk. Don't mind the width of the Salomons, but the scales really makes you able to keep a higher pace on flats (difficult to slide with the skins on the salomons). Although when things get very steep, the skins is a great tool to pull out (on the salomons).
I keep thinking I want to modify one or more pairs of my non-Asnes skis to allow an Asnes X-Skin to be attached.
I don't have the mechanical design skills to make a 3D model and I also am lacking a 3D printer, so I don't think I can print my own polyethylene (or whatever) inserts.
The only idea I have so far is to wrap the metal tabs with packing tape to act as a release agent and then use thickened epoxy or maybe epoxy and fiberglass to mold the correct shape. Then I would drill or cut two slots in the ski so I can epoxy the molded part in place.
This sounds sort of difficult. Does anyone have a different idea?
Cut / machine two slightly oversized slots in the ski (in the appropriate place);
(Maybe they don’t even have to go through the top sheet);
Carefully coat the X-skin attachment point with a mold release agent;
Fill the slots in the skis with epoxy;
Press the X-skin attachment into position, clamp in place until cured;
Hopefully, remove X-skins.
Otherwise, one now has skis with permanent X-skins!
Something like that.
I would probably refine the process before attempting, but that seems like it could work.
The one disadvantage is a lack of clearance between the epoxy and the X-Skin fitting.
Maybe there needs to be a certain amount of clearance for the metal “hooks” to rotate into position.
Making an X-skin attach to a non-Åsnes ski is much more complicated, than simply making a homemade skin attachment. Since Åsnes and Fischer have done most of the work for us.
There was a gentleman last year whom sewed a loop to fit through the top of a Fischer attachment system.
I would model a homemade system off a loop, that approximate width of slot, as it works on a Fischer skin. I would probably utilize a dowel to be the keeper on top.
I would router a slot through the ski to fit my homemade skin, and chamfer the base a bit on the tail side of the slot. It doesn’t have to be difficult, or particularly polished to work. Seal your work with a little epoxy.
This system would be based upon buying some skin material, and cutting to your needs.
Cut / machine two slightly oversized slots in the ski (in the appropriate place);
(Maybe they don’t even have to go through the top sheet);
Carefully coat the X-skin attachment point with a mold release agent;
Fill the slots in the skis with epoxy;
Press the X-skin attachment into position, clamp in place until cured;
Hopefully, remove X-skins.
Otherwise, one now has skis with permanent X-skins!
Something like that.
I would probably refine the process before attempting, but that seems like it could work.
The one disadvantage is a lack of clearance between the epoxy and the X-Skin fitting.
Maybe there needs to be a certain amount of clearance for the metal “hooks” to rotate into position.
I thought doing the mold separate from the ski would limit the damage somewhat and avoid having a ski with a skin epoxied to it forever.
To get a workable clearance I hoped several layers of packing tape on the metal tabs might be enough.
After playing with the skins on the MR skis I think having the slots going all the way through is an intentional design feature. I suspect it will allow any snow packed into the slots to be pushed out the top sheet when you attach the skins.
Making an X-skin attach to a non-Åsnes ski is much more complicated, than simply making a homemade skin attachment. Since Åsnes and Fischer have done most of the work for us.
There was a gentleman last year whom sewed a loop to fit through the top of a Fischer attachment system.
I would model a homemade system off a loop, that approximate width of slot, as it works on a Fischer skin. I would probably utilize a dowel to be the keeper on top.
I would router a slot through the ski to fit my homemade skin, and chamfer the base a bit on the tail side of the slot. It doesn’t have to be difficult, or particularly polished to work. Seal your work with a little epoxy.
This system would be based upon buying some skin material, and cutting to your needs.
My intention is to use my one and only pair of skins on more than more ski. I think if I buy skin material and make my own skins I will probably try running a very narrow skin from tip to almost the tail.
Plenty of rain outside right now. Needs to be a lot colder before I can think about using the skis.
I have been thinking about buying a router for like 10 years now. I imagine I would use it all the time, but they are just so expensive.
Hello, I have a pair of Fischer Tour Xtralite Easyskin Skis with one easy skin mount missing. I was trying to figure out a way to replace this but can not get the part from Fischer or local repair shops. Could you please share your printfile so I could make a replacement. Thank you for your time!! Nice work on the skis, i hope they worked for you.
"Connyro yes, I drew it up in CAD and 3d printed the mounts. I’m happy to share the printfile if anybody has use for it. Used epoxy glue to mount and seal, good input on the potential issue with the glue not being flexible enough, we’ll see how they hold up!"
Hello, I have a pair of Fischer Tour Xtralite Easyskin Skis with one easy skin mount missing. I was trying to figure out a way to replace this but can not get the part from Fischer or local repair shops. Could you please share your printfile so I could make a replacement. Thank you for your time!! Nice work on the skis, i hope they worked for you.
"Connyro yes, I drew it up in CAD and 3d printed the mounts. I’m happy to share the printfile if anybody has use for it. Used epoxy glue to mount and seal, good input on the potential issue with the glue not being flexible enough, we’ll see how they hold up!"
I am in the same boat as @Billie. @Denialson you would male two happy skier if hou could share hour print file. Happy holidays!
