Voilé and Kästle selling XCD in North America

[fisheater]

I have a Tindan 86, Asnes equivalent of probably the Endeavor, as the Tindan is a poplar/carbon core.
I used to ski my Tindan with my Alico UK surplus Ski March boot, but I’m past doing that any longer. I proved to myself I can handle that ski with a leather boot. What I learned is that my T-4 is a much better match.
If I want to ski my leather boots downhill, I will ski my Falketind Xplore. It is by no means a compromise ski. It’s a poplar/carbon 62 mm underfoot ski that tours well and turns well. If I’m doing fresh powder in rolling terrain or Great Lakes dunes, it’s fantastic. Bigger terrain and mankier conditions plastic and a bigger ski.
That is my opinion and experience, and what works for me. We all think differently, but we all love to ski and make Telemark turns. That’s what matters!
Peace brothers

[JB TELE]

My general experience is that wider skis are lots of fun in leather boots in deep powder. I've even skiied 96 underfoot in stiff leathers (merrell ultras, simmilar to asolo extremes) and that was fine. I wonder what it would be like trying to skiing leathers on a 110 underfoot ski on a waist deep bottomless powder day?

Around here you need at least two skis for leather boot skiing. One wider ski for flotation on powder days and one skinnier one for consolidated snow.

[lowangle al]

I have skied voile Insanes and Chargers (112 UF)with leather boots and it's a lot of fun, even in just a few inches of powder. It could be a little trickier in waist deep powder, but probably not worse than a skinny ski in that same snow.

[randoskier]

The Kastle XT84 has similar dimensions as the Ingstad — 84-62-72 vs Ingstad’s 84-62-74.
The Kastle skis say ”Crown + X-Skin.”
“Crown” is the term Fischer uses for their traction pattern.
“X-Skin” is the term Äsnes uses for the skin attachment system.
Are these the long awaited “Äsnes” traction pattern skis?


Maybe not, but it is interesting that they seem to use and accept the same skin attachment technology that Äsnes uses on their skis.

Maybe because Asnes does not have a ski factory, they are just a brand, they design- others build.

This is where Asnes skis are made-

The Sporten factory in CZ makes all of the Asnes skis. Sporten owns Kästle.

When the Fischer factory in Ukraine (worlds largest ski factory) burnt down in October 2020, they had to shift some of their manufacturing to Czechia- so Sporten made the Excursion, Travers, and others there- but Sporten did not have enough spare production slots so Fischer had them made in China for one year (last season) with a bad result- no Easy skin and according to one poster on here- terrible finish quality. The Fischers I just received (78s) were made in Ukraine so they solved their war-time labor shortage somehow- commuters from Slovakia or Hungary? Women?

https://www.snowindustrynews.com/articl ... mukachevo/

[wabene]

Bump-gotta know if anybody's tried out the Kastle XT84 yet? Handled em?

[DG99]

I’d like to second or third the skepticism about the voile skis plus leather boots combo.

I’ve had multiple similar leather boots over the years. I’ve gotten rid of them all and just use T4s with Fischer SBounds for my XCD BC touring stuff anymore. Much more ready for the deep and stiff or refrozen coral reef. I just don’t have much use for a set up that’s only good in really good snow! Like sweet but shallow pow.

Oregon snow is definitely suspect much of the time!

[DPO777]

Judging from this glamor shot of the base of the Kästles, the scales seem to have the same shape as the Fischer crown pattern, no?

So thinking the crown base is the same as the Sporten MgE pressed base as they are made at the sporten factory and share the same Asnes X-Skin. As well Asnes has some ties with the Sporten/Kastle factory.

https://www.sporten.cz/en/about-us/technologies/mge-15

Harder than the base info is try to find a sizing chart.

Pretty sure you need to go to the factory tour and test them for a little get away LOL

https://www.kaestleresidence.cz/en/expe ... roduction/

Ok finally found some info if correct not sure. It is for the XT84

https://cripplecreekbc.com/en-ca/produc ... dS2iQ-nYgb

[randoskier]

Judging from this glamor shot of the base of the Kästles, the scales seem to have the same shape as the Fischer crown pattern, no?

So thinking the crown base is the same as the Sporten MgE pressed base as they are made at the sporten factory and share the same Asnes X-Skin. As well Asnes has some ties with the Sporten/Kastle factory.

https://www.sporten.cz/en/about-us/technologies/mge-15

Harder than the base info is try to find a sizing chart.

Pretty sure you need to go to the factory tour and test them for a little get away LOL

https://www.kaestleresidence.cz/en/expe ... roduction/

Ok finally found some info if correct not sure. It is for the XT84

https://cripplecreekbc.com/en-ca/produc ... dS2iQ-nYgb

xt84.jpg

xt 63.jpg

As I said before Sporten (or whatever he calls his group now, see my old post) owns Kastle, and Sporten manufactures the (over-priced) skis for Asnes, Sporten (and Kastle) is owned by a Czech gazillionaire. I think he renamed the Sporten factory some time ago. Kastle are essentially Spoten skis and he is smart to go with the new branding as Sporten is not much of a name outside of the Eastern countries and Kastle is old mark of Alpine skis from Austria.

[DPO777]

Got it !