Panorama M62: contradictory reviews...

[DPO777]

That was a nice video with some good skiing but like all of the light gear videos from Japan they're skiing good conditions. Old tele movies from the past, before plastic boots, show people busting through crust and skiing more extreme and variable terrain. Even with the good conditions in the video some faceplants were made.

So one of two things, when conditions get bad they either switch to heavier gear or wait for things to get better. Or maybe they don't post videos from crappy, humbling days.

Sure looked like they had a blast though and were humble enough to show some wipeouts. I like the recovery on 5:36. good think not to hit anything solid on a head roll like that!

Aren't all the new 2025 panorama m78/m68/m62s sporting the shorter version the old Karhu Omnitrak (Good setuo on the Karhu XCD GTs)

With the M62 having a higher more Nordic camber.

I think the older 2020/21 M62 had a more alpine camber and Intelligrip Transition Skin and no scales. At that time I think the M62 was the widest in the Panorama line.

Also noted the newer Panoramas M62s are made in China. Note sure if the earlier version was.

It is alway harder to see in detail the patterned bases on dark bottom layer skis on vendors pictures. The M62 is no exception.

This video shows the OmniGrip base at the right angles with the right light. As well it appears the metal edges don't wrap around the tips.



The M78s in video I believe are bending more towards the Alpine camber than the M62s that I believe are leaning towards the Nordic camber.

I am surprised that the new ones didn't also include kicker skin slot as well as they appear to use a shorter version of the Omnitrak over the much longer Karhu version. You would be stuck to a full skin.

I never attempted to stick a skin to fish scales and wonder how they stay stuck.

Wow I forgot how heavy the old XCDs are compared to the newer light skis such as the e99 xtralites. Guess that was normal lugging that extra weight back in the 80s and they didn't bounce around as much as the lighter new skis.

[wabene]

I never attempted to stick a skin to fish scales and wonder how they stay stuck.

I've used used an Easy Skin on SB98's hauling a tobaggan over a big hill to a cabin many times and they work great! You don't have to worry about kick wax contaminating the glue. It's a clean surface to stick to and adheres well.

[DPO777]

I never attempted to stick a skin to fish scales and wonder how they stay stuck.

I've used used an Easy Skin on SB98's hauling a tobaggan over a big hill to a cabin many times and they work great! You don't have to worry about kick wax contaminating the glue. It's a clean surface to stick to and adheres well.

Yes thanks for that info. I figured the kick wax could get messy with a skin. Good to know they stick to clean scales Ok.

I bought a pair of X-skins on sale for the Gammie 54s. I haven't taken them out of the pouch yet. Not the plastic over the sofa syndrome (maybe a bit) more just haven't needed to use them out back on the new skis. Still getting used to them and testing different kick waxes as well as kick zones to get best glide without the slippy doo. Will be sure to clean off the kick wax before I try them.

After last nights snowfall may need some wider skis to get out the back door LOL

Didn't get out to play on the deep fresh stuff today with all the plowing and snow blowing.

Maybe tomorrow

[Oldbie]

I guess these are the mark II or mark III version? I love these skis.