Why are americans fat?

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Re: Why are americans fat?

Post by Bri7 » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:38 pm

Why are americans fat?

Yesterday at Jay Peak (VT) I bought a coffee. The milk dispenser only offered cream and half and half :) Just like skis, I couldn't find anything skimmy to put in my coffee :) I guess this is part of the answer. Americans don't like skinny things.

I love long and large skis, american way. For my coffee I like it the canadian way!

Don't you have anything better to ski than ski doo trails near Rimouski? A friend of mine did a multiple days tour in the Parc national de la Gaspesie. He showed me some pictures! Its looked awesome! I would be there every week end if I lived anywhere near :)

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Re: Why are americans fat?

Post by bgregoire » Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:24 pm

Bri7 wrote: Don't you have anything better to ski than ski doo trails near Rimouski? A friend of mine did a multiple days tour in the Parc national de la Gaspesie. He showed me some pictures! Its looked awesome! I would be there every week end if I lived anywhere near :)
Hahaha! Sure there are a ton of things to ski near Rimouski and the Parc de la Gaspésie, have been there many times and going again for 3 days tomorrow. But imagine 33 500 km of packed trail available to the willing skier, I mean, thats the total kms of ski-doo trails we have in Québec. Imagine if we could freely use those trails here? There are laws in Scandinavia that make it such that skiers can use all snowmobile trails. Land of the freeheeler I say. That's what I dream up when a think of those skinny metal edge skis.
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Re: Why are americans fat?

Post by Bri7 » Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:46 pm

All things come to him who waits. In the mean time you don't need to wait for a permission :)

We did not yesterday and didn't get caught... The 120E in VT was great for XCD.
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Re: Why are americans fat?

Post by Rodbelan » Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:47 am

I was being a bit cheeky, but seriously - what is the REAL point of making turns? It's to control your speed or dodge obstacles. If it wasn't why not just bomb it down everything?

Turning on hardpack when there are gates involved is a real sport. It's not just some jerking around weaving back and forth. Yeah a lot people have fun with it but it mostly to accomplish the two things I said... and even in racing it's to do at least one of those.

I'm sorry but I think sometimes people put way too much emphasis on this turning crap. They use it to bully people around and make them feel like lesser of a skier - like your buddy Ron. So just for minute, step back and think about what the real goal is. Maybe it's so far removed for some it becomes something else, but it really started with a true purpose. And for those looking to become better skiers in the BC, it's really the two things I stated.

Also don't misunderstood what I said about how I skied when I was young but I never once said I'm going to make some turns - I said I was going skiing. Turns just happened to be part of the process. I scoffed at those who were swishing back in forth in a perfect line down a groomed run not because I was jealous, but because I thought what they were doing was incredibly boring. Why didn't they go one way or another? Why go in a straight line swooshing back and forth? It's like jerking off. It isn't skiing. It's going through the motions. Ever see a professional race course that was in straight line making the same radius arcs back and forth like a pendulum?
Overtly reductive... You just sound like a jealous man! Focussing on the turn can be very zen... I like the turn for itself with all kinds of skis and boots, trying to realize the perfect balance, the perfect arc, perfect momentum... It is truly an art and we always need to work on it; it is never perfectly acquired... Since you are one of the mod, you really shouldn't talk like that.

BTW, regarding another thread, you are right: the Glitter is double cambered... but it has nothing to do with the ones you find on equivalent Fischer and Rossi—which are very stiff. So there is dcamber and dcamber... Thanks anyway for precising...
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Re: Why are americans fat?

Post by MikeK » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:16 am

Rodbelan wrote:[
Overtly reductive... You just sound like a jealous man!
One last comment...

Jealous of the XCD turn - yes, no doubt. Jealous of the Alpine turn on fixed heels, not so much - and that's what I was picking on.

Just to be clear on my mod motives: It's to keep Ron and his kind of nonsense away. And by that I mean people who perseverate on turning as the only thing in Nordic skiing and use it to belittle others.

I'm also a complete weirdo with a very strange humor and way of pointing things out to people...



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Re: Why are americans fat?

Post by Woodserson » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:00 am

Can you Canadians not ski on snowmobile trails? Why not?

We have a great network in NH, I ski on them all the time. I stay away from the superhighways (big wide straightaways where sleds go 80mph) but the local trails are great. One ski/snowshoe trail right here in town shares a few miles with snowmobile trails. They make great skiing, fast. Sometimes smelly. Everyone is friendly, I pull over and give a nice wave and smile.



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Re: Why are americans fat?

Post by lilcliffy » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:49 pm

Woodserson wrote:Can you Canadians not ski on snowmobile trails? Why not?

We have a great network in NH, I ski on them all the time. I stay away from the superhighways (big wide straightaways where sleds go 80mph) but the local trails are great. One ski/snowshoe trail right here in town shares a few miles with snowmobile trails. They make great skiing, fast. Sometimes smelly. Everyone is friendly, I pull over and give a nice wave and smile.
Depends on the province and the jurisdiction.

We have thousands of kms of maintained, groomed, snowmobile trails in NB. They also connect with the snowmobile trail system in ME and QC. Coyotes love them even more than snowmobilers!

As far as I know there is no law stopping skiing on groomed snowmobile track in NB. I personally don't use them...in the backcountry I prefer fresh snow- or my own track. On occasion I ski on groomed track in town during the week- but prefer the daily 6-10km loops around my own woodlot in, in my own track.

If I was King for a few days I would make it mandatory to maintain a groomed xcountry track alongside the government (i.e. public) subsidized snowmobile trail system. I have no problem with snowmobiling per say- but it certainly gets my goat that my taxes are being used to maintain snowmobile track alone- and we somehow can no longer afford to maintain xcountry trails in NB provincial parks?!?!

At this time of year I have a serious problem keeping snowmobilers off my woods roads/trails on my property- ruining my poor track!!! :evil: Nowadays- most snowmobilers in NB have really, big, heavy sleds- they need the groomed track to travel on- can't float on deep fresh snow. At least this keeps them on the main trails for most of the winter.

Only a generation ago most rural NBers were recreational xcountry skiers. This pastime has disappeared as the old people have passed on. The baby-boomers that go out in the winter are primarily snowmobilers. Not that there are many that can really afford it. NB is the poorest province in Canada. The vast majority of NBers can only dream of owning a snowmobile...

Again- if I was King for a few...
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Re: Why are americans fat?

Post by ddg » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:24 pm

Bri7 wrote: The milk dispenser only offered cream and half and half :) Just like skis, I couldn't find anything skimmy to put in my coffee :) I guess this is part of the answer. Americans don't like skinny things.

I love long and large skis, american way. For my coffee I like it the canadian way!
That must be a different part of Canada. Here in NB we typically prefer 18% M.F. (marketed as "coffee cream"). In fact, when Starbucks first cam to our area with their half and half, people complained. Now if you're willing to pay the price for a SBs coffee you have the choice of good ole 18%! :D

I think I'll make a nice creamy cup of java before I head out on the snow shoes!
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Re: Why are americans fat?

Post by ddg » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:35 pm

lilcliffy wrote: Only a generation ago most rural NBers were recreational xcountry skiers. This pastime has disappeared as the old people have passed on. The baby-boomers that go out in the winter are primarily snowmobilers. Not that there are many that can really afford it. NB is the poorest province in Canada. The vast majority of NBers can only dream of owning a snowmobile...
Hmmm, you forgot about financing... ;)
Seriously though, I can so relate. I went to Sportcheck just to try a pair of XC boots in order to make the best estimate before ordering online. There was only one style of boot there (none in my size 10) and maybe 3 pairs of xc skis. Granted it's nearing the end of the season but there were still lots of downhill products. "Different strokes for different folks" - I just wish there were more people stroking like me! :D
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Re: Why are americans fat?

Post by Woodserson » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:09 pm

lilcliffy wrote: Only a generation ago most rural NBers were recreational xcountry skiers. This pastime has disappeared as the old people have passed on. The baby-boomers that go out in the winter are primarily snowmobilers. Not that there are many that can really afford it. NB is the poorest province in Canada. The vast majority of NBers can only dream of owning a snowmobile...
Yeah, what ddg said. Predatory financing, and a cultural shift/hijack painting X-Country skiing as "elitist."



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