Re: Physics debate
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:48 pm
Drinking game: anytime "force" is mentioned. I forgot what happened the past 8 pages.
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Re: Physics debate
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:53 pm
Who the fuck cares if it’s transmits or creates. This is a ski forum not a science forum. The important thing to know is, when you lift your heel you are loading the front of the ski. This effects your skiing by increasing the length of your effective edge.
Re: Physics debate
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:54 pm
@Stephen I’m glad you made it to the point I was when I declared “Liar, liar, pants on fire!”
Of course you were much more polite.
Of course you were much more polite.
Re: Physics debate
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:12 pm
That seems to be it. And of course when someone says creates force it’s understood, it’s not like the cable is a motor or something!Stephen wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:20 pmI haven’t caught up with the last 3 pages of this, but have to say that where a lot of this is getting hung up is that people (except one) are saying that the:
Cable creates force.
We all know what this means, even though we also know, if we stop to think of it, that the cable, itself, does not creat force, it transmits force or energy.
So, if you all (minus 1) will correct yourselves, and stop saying CREATES, when what you mean is TRANSMITS, maybe we can move on.
But…. also GS seems to have some real misunderstandings, e.g., maybe doesn’t know that the cable on a tele binding resists your heel lifting up, like this:
Weird!The cable is not a lever. The only thing that might qualify as a fulcrum is its attachment point to the binding. But that attachment point freely rotates, so there is no leverage.
Re: Physics debate
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:18 pm
Yes, both.DG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:12 pmThat seems to be it. And of course when someone says creates force it’s understood, it’s not like the cable is a motor or something!Stephen wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:20 pmI haven’t caught up with the last 3 pages of this, but have to say that where a lot of this is getting hung up is that people (except one) are saying that the:
Cable creates force.
We all know what this means, even though we also know, if we stop to think of it, that the cable, itself, does not creat force, it transmits force or energy.
So, if you all (minus 1) will correct yourselves, and stop saying CREATES, when what you mean is TRANSMITS, maybe we can move on.
But…. also GS seems to have some real misunderstandings, e.g., maybe doesn’t know that the cable on a tele binding resists your heel lifting up, like this:
Weird!The cable is not a lever. The only thing that might qualify as a fulcrum is its attachment point to the binding. But that attachment point freely rotates, so there is no leverage.
Re: Physics debate
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:19 pm
Resistance is not the same as leverage.DG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:12 pmThat seems to be it. And of course when someone says creates force it’s understood, it’s not like the cable is a motor or something!Stephen wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:20 pmI haven’t caught up with the last 3 pages of this, but have to say that where a lot of this is getting hung up is that people (except one) are saying that the:
Cable creates force.
We all know what this means, even though we also know, if we stop to think of it, that the cable, itself, does not creat force, it transmits force or energy.
So, if you all (minus 1) will correct yourselves, and stop saying CREATES, when what you mean is TRANSMITS, maybe we can move on.
But…. also GS seems to have some real misunderstandings, e.g., maybe doesn’t know that the cable on a tele binding resists your heel lifting up, like this:
Weird!The cable is not a lever. The only thing that might qualify as a fulcrum is its attachment point to the binding. But that attachment point freely rotates, so there is no leverage.
You can create resistance any number of ways (friction, compression etc).
Leverage requires a lever and a fulcrum.
Re: Physics debate
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:20 pm
lowangle al wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:53 pmWho the fuck cares if it’s transmits or creates. This is a ski forum not a science forum. The important thing to know is, when you lift your heel you are loading the front of the ski. This effects your skiing by increasing the length of your effective edge.
Don’t let it raise your blood pressure, man!
Re: Physics debate
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:24 pm
And in round 15, we have
Against anyone who will step into the ring….
Re: Physics debate
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Re: Physics debate
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