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I haven’t used klister for many years, last time had some universal klister, no matter how much I gooped on couldn’t quite keep up with the waxless people in the group. Icy trails. I collected a lot of pine needles and bits though. It’s really rare to use grip wax around here especially as the snow tends to cycle above and below freezing most days.
Those are tough conditions, I can usually wax or klister.DG99 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:38 pmI haven’t used klister for many years, last time had some universal klister, no matter how much I gooped on couldn’t quite keep up with the waxless people in the group. Icy trails. I collected a lot of pine needles and bits though. It’s really rare to use grip wax around here especially as the snow tends to cycle above and below freezing most days.
Generally agree with this!
I have the current Nansen WL (i.e. scaled ski)- it is a fairly effective scale design for XC skiing when the snow is ideal for scales (i.e. warm, wet, freeable), but not enough grip for effective climbing. The Asnes scale design is nowhere near as grippy as Fischer's Offtrack Crown.I have no idea what the current Åsnes patterns are like as their skis haven't been available here for many years but they used to have almost zero grip....
Second that on the Offtrack Crown. The scales on my Fischer Excursion 88s are easily 3x as grippy as the scales on the Madshus Eon it replaced.lilcliffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:18 amGenerally agree with this!
I have the current Nansen WL (i.e. scaled ski)- it is a fairly effective scale design for XC skiing when the snow is ideal for scales (i.e. warm, wet, freeable), but not enough grip for effective climbing. The Asnes scale design is nowhere near as grippy as Fischer's Offtrack Crown.I have no idea what the current Åsnes patterns are like as their skis haven't been available here for many years but they used to have almost zero grip....
You sold me. Just ordered one from neptune. I went one size (5cm) down for less camber and better downhill control.lilcliffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:31 amThe Nansen has less camber and smoother, rounder flex than the other Asnes "Fjellskis" (e.g. Sverdrup/Ingstad/Combat Nato)- it is Asnes' traditional xcD or "telemark" touring ski. The Nansen is still quite stiff and stable and holds a fantastic edge on icy/hardpack snow. There is no equivalent to this ski in either the Fischer or Madshus Nordic ski lines.
Can't remember- Do you want/need a "waxless" scaled base?
I like the grip from the fischers but that's not the most important thing. I wonder if putting a small section of kick wax in front and behind the fish scales could help?lilcliffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:18 amGenerally agree with this!
I have the current Nansen WL (i.e. scaled ski)- it is a fairly effective scale design for XC skiing when the snow is ideal for scales (i.e. warm, wet, freeable), but not enough grip for effective climbing. The Asnes scale design is nowhere near as grippy as Fischer's Offtrack Crown.I have no idea what the current Åsnes patterns are like as their skis haven't been available here for many years but they used to have almost zero grip....
^ Not on ice. On other stuff maybe, but I'd be more inclined just to wax over the pattern, or else get the waxable version if you live somewhere the snow is always cold and dry. You should always glide wax every ski IMHO, but grip waxes are either wonderful, tolerable or a PITA depending on where you live and/or ski. Where I ski the snow rarely stays cold enough for long enough for grip waxing to be anything but frustrating, so waxless rules, supplemented by skins for ice or very steep climbs. However, if you live in say Colorado or Norway, grip waxing is much more likely to be viable - it depends!