I’ve used my T2ecos with both pins (objective BC) and switchback x2 (V6, flat). Yes, the extra resistance does make it feel a little more like an xc setup helping the flex, but then it’s flipped from what you said on the up: the very limited cuff ROM makes any typical skin track really challenging as you’re pushing up against the resistance all the time.JB TELE wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:08 pm
For trips that involve longer ascents, the T2's are fine. They don't have the greatest range of motion in the cuff, but you can push off of your toes and get the bellows flexing on the uphill.
I have only used T2's with free pivoting voile switchback bindings. I wonder if using them with 3 pin clamp style bindings would allow you to flex the bellows and push off of your toes. Or are the new generation T2's too stiff to take advantage of the resistance in a 3 pin clamp binding?
T2 Ecos as a boot quiver of one?
Re: T2 Ecos as a boot quiver of one?
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Re: T2 Ecos as a boot quiver of one?
Funny story. A few years back, I had my Objectives mounted with a 3 pin, and my plan was to ski the Objectives with both T2 eco's and leathers depending on tour conditions. As it turned out, I rarely skied the T2 / Objective combo for the reasons you mentioned. On one outing I got caught on a long uphill slog in very deep bottomless early season powder on the T2 Eco/ Objective combo and I kept snagging the ski tip on buried brush and branches on the uphill climb. It would have been so much easier with my switchback X2's and the free pivot. As it turned out I was skiing with a group of AT skiers and I let them break trail and pack the snow so I could get through one difficult section of the route. How embarrassing, as I was leading them up a route they had never been on before. The T2 eco 3 pin Objective combo is a blast to ski downhill. Amazing predictable control, so much better on the downhill than my leather setup at the time, but I would almost always pick leathers over the T2's when I was skiing a non active pin binding.spopepro wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:28 pm
I’ve used my T2ecos with both pins (objective BC) and switchback x2 (V6, flat). Yes, the extra resistance does make it feel a little more like an xc setup helping the flex, but then it’s flipped from what you said on the up: the very limited cuff ROM makes any typical skin track really challenging as you’re pushing up against the resistance all the time.
Re: T2 Ecos as a boot quiver of one?
Any notable differences between this model and the current t2 eco?
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Re: T2 Ecos as a boot quiver of one?
Looks like my T2X (after T2 and before Eco).
Edit: And I recall thinking the t2 Eco looked just like my T2X.
(But that's just me looking not "examining" like others here probably did.)
Edit: And I recall thinking the t2 Eco looked just like my T2X.
(But that's just me looking not "examining" like others here probably did.)
Re: T2 Ecos as a boot quiver of one?
The person selling them has a high price at 325 CAD and I already own T2 terminators so I'm trying to justify this price. They have intuition liners and all the other features look consistent with current model. Side by side looks like only color differences and aesthetician differences in the buckles. Just don't wanna pay a premium for a dated model, but also can't afford msrp on this boot new @ $950 CAD
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Re: T2 Ecos as a boot quiver of one?
I was researching going from the Meidjo to 22 Designs and came upon this from FHL.
Hopefully some good info on the subject:
I used to ski the T2 and liked it (I went from the Syner-G to the Eco years ago). Given Scarpa's lack of R&D, I don't imagine it's changed much.
Hopefully some good info on the subject:
I used to ski the T2 and liked it (I went from the Syner-G to the Eco years ago). Given Scarpa's lack of R&D, I don't imagine it's changed much.
Re: T2 Ecos as a boot quiver of one?
Thanks. Much appreciated. I do have experience in the t2 and understand their use, I feel like their use parallels the dynafits I've used for use, but with not so much ROM. The tradeoff being scarpas are built to last. Anyways, I picked up the "Kermit" green T2s, I haven't tried on the latest T2's and imagine there's not much difference so I'm happy. The difference between the t2 eco and the terminators is very noticeable though. I was going to keep the terminators for backup but I think I'll pass them on and just rely on t4 and t2 to bracket and backup, and end the holding
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Re: T2 Ecos as a boot quiver of one?
Mmmmm....I think the Pebax is now made from vegetarians instead of dead dinosaurs.Montana St Alum wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:31 pmGiven Scarpa's lack of R&D, I don't imagine it's changed much.
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Re: T2 Ecos as a boot quiver of one?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Pebax has always been made from vegetarians who only ate castor beans. It seems like the only "innovation" Scarpa has made in the last 10 years was to get rid of the Tx with the rear tech fitting,twopass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:21 amMmmmm....I think the Pebax is now made from vegetarians instead of dead dinosaurs.Montana St Alum wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:31 pmGiven Scarpa's lack of R&D, I don't imagine it's changed much.