Asnes Falketind 62 Xplore vs Ingstad BC

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Re: Asnes Falketind 62 Xplore vs Ingstad BC

Post by Stephen » Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:48 pm

lilcliffy wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:06 am
@Stephen
Whatcha going to mount on the FTX?
8-)
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Re: Asnes Falketind 62 Xplore vs Ingstad BC

Post by snow-mark » Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:00 pm

Those pictures make me want both!

But they also suggest that the Ingstad would probably suit my skiing better (miles over turns).



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Re: Asnes Falketind 62 Xplore vs Ingstad BC

Post by JohnSKepler » Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:12 pm

Stephen wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:48 pm
lilcliffy wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:06 am
@Stephen
Whatcha going to mount on the FTX?
8-)
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That's what I have on mine. You won't be disappointed. The Alpina Alaska XP is very nice, too. Completely different experience.
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Re: Asnes Falketind 62 Xplore vs Ingstad BC

Post by Tom M » Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:48 pm

Stephen wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:48 pm
lilcliffy wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:06 am
@Stephen
Whatcha going to mount on the FTX?
Wahoo ! ! ! :o :o



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Re: Asnes Falketind 62 Xplore vs Ingstad BC

Post by Stephen » Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:40 am

And, like @Tom M, I’ll replace the bindings on my Voile Objective BC with Xplore.



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Re: Asnes Falketind 62 Xplore vs Ingstad BC

Post by lilcliffy » Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:25 pm

@Stephen
So!
Why the FTX and not the Rabb 68?
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.



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Re: Asnes Falketind 62 Xplore vs Ingstad BC

Post by Stephen » Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:31 pm

@lilcliffy, price and availability.
The FTX was about 385€ (delivered) at Varuste (they don't carry the Rabb ) and the Rabb looks like about $615 (delivered, including state tax, which Varuste does not collect).
I think the Rabb might have fit in my ski selection better, but I'm cheap thrifty and the extra $230 wasn't worth it to me.



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Re: Asnes Falketind 62 Xplore vs Ingstad BC

Post by telerat » Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:24 am

Stephen wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:33 pm
telerat wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:55 pm
Regarding support or float; my previous experience with an extreme example (Elan SCX 115-60-110 mm) in loose snow was that the tip floated well, but the middle didn't float and the tail sunk, so the ski plowed through the snow instead of floating.
I have even noticed this tendency with the 210 Gamme (for which I am light), in certain conditions. The feeling of walking uphill on the flats. Each step forward left a notch down in the snow, behind the tail, when the underfoot and tail punched through the snow platform already made by the ski’s forward travel.
Much extra effort.
I also thought about this when writing "while in more consolidated snow a stiffer flex is also needed to increase support/float." A stiffer flex will increase the surface area and can increase float, while soft tip and tail will decrease surface area. All parameters of a ski is a compromise, where a soft tip can help the ski turn, as well as follow the terrain and stay on the surface instead if sinking and thus reduce drag, especially downhill but also on the flats, while it can also create an uphill for the front part of the ski when the the middle and end sinks while the tip floats, and thus push against forward motion when skiing forward both on the flats and uphills. Rocker seems like a good alterative, where the tip can be stiffer but still help a ski stay afloat.



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Re: Asnes Falketind 62 Xplore vs Ingstad BC

Post by lilcliffy » Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:03 pm

@Stephen
Do you still have your 2nd-gen FT62?
And- if so- can you give us a similar comparision with the FTX?

@fisheater
Bob- do you still have your 1st-gen FT62?
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
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6’3” / 191cm — 172# / 78kg, size 47 / 30 mondo

Re: Asnes Falketind 62 Xplore vs Ingstad BC

Post by Stephen » Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:04 pm

lilcliffy wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:03 pm
@Stephen
Do you still have your 2nd-gen FT62?
And- if so- can you give us a similar comparison with the FTX?
Wish I could, but sold them to someone local a few days before the FTX showed up.



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