Trying the Full Johnny

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Trying the Full Johnny

Post by Tom M » Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:42 pm

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Re: Trying the Full Johnny

Post by DG99 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:10 am

Nice! I was wondering what that camera is doing, seems like it has a mind of its own.



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Re: Trying the Full Johnny

Post by TheMusher » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:36 am

Haha this is brilliant!

The style is unironically even more impeccable in full johnny.



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Re: Trying the Full Johnny

Post by Johnny » Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:50 am

Awesome! Thanks for that nice tribute Tom!

But there is no mistake: You ARE way happier in Full-Johnny mode! You can't deny it, it's just obvious: your mood is happier, you are showing a great deal of excitement like nowhere else in your other vids... Your voice is definitely a lot more enthusiastic than usual, your whole body is radiating fun and excitation. Everyone can see that you are smiling and laughing ALL THE TIME. Man, you look and sound like a 10yo kid who is having the time of his life. You are simply having more fun...

Wait, isn't that the whole point of being alive? Isn't that the whole point of skiing? Isn't that the main reason we spend so much time on skis? 8-)

See, don't tell me Full Johnny doesn't work. ;)

There is a lesson to be learned here. It's plain to see that even you are having way more fun challenging conventions rather that doing what you are expected to do. And your utter enthusiasm is the proof...

Oh by the way, I'm sorry to mention that this was only 3/4 Johnny:

No cables, no flexors, no helmets, no clothes

Looking forward to see the real Full-Johnny (4/4) video... 8-)
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Re: Trying the Full Johnny

Post by JohnSKepler » Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:29 am

@Tom M, that's some slick tele with a selfie-stick in one hand and two poles in the other! Maybe a full-Johnny with a self-stick and no poles ought to be called a full-Tommy?

I was in an AT ski race last weekend that really kicked my butt. At one point I was doing steep, moguled downhill in half-Johnny; that's the stock bumper. In more challenging terrain I couldn't tell there was a bumper there at all and I kept falling forward. With my heels free, there was nothing to keep me from falling forward. I imagine that might be even worse in full-Johnny. I'm not sure what the correct technique would be in that situation but about half-way down, after falling forward a bunch of times, I just decided to adopt the Telemark stance going straight and I fell a lot less.

So, what what is proper technique when in full- (or half-) Johnny and you hit a steep, moguled section, because adopting an Alpine approach DOES NOT work!
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Re: Trying the Full Johnny

Post by wabene » Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:55 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Re: Trying the Full Johnny

Post by lilcliffy » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:25 pm

Johnny wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:50 am
Oh by the way, I'm sorry to mention that this was only 3/4 Johnny:

No cables, no flexors, no helmets, no clothes

Looking forward to see the real Full-Johnny (4/4) video... 8-)
This is a most important missing requirement for the Full Johnny.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.



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Re: Trying the Full Johnny

Post by Tom M » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:10 pm

JohnSKepler wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:29 am
I was in an AT ski race last weekend that really kicked my butt. At one point I was doing steep, moguled downhill in half-Johnny; that's the stock bumper. In more challenging terrain I couldn't tell there was a bumper there at all and I kept falling forward. With my heels free, there was nothing to keep me from falling forward. I imagine that might be even worse in full-Johnny. I'm not sure what the correct technique would be in that situation but about half-way down, after falling forward a bunch of times, I just decided to adopt the Telemark stance going straight and I fell a lot less.
@JohnSKepler Sounds like you are using the trial by fire method. That is not a bad thing at all, but it can get frustrating. The slope at the end of this video (bonus segment) was our planned meetup spot. I think you need to lap this baby until you think it is "boring". Tracks that can be seen from the highway tend to attract other skiers (and unfortunately snowmobiles) so it probably won't be pristine for long. Put this on your list sooner than later. 8-)



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Re: Trying the Full Johnny

Post by bauerb » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:56 pm

this is how I learned to telemark ski, but I was on XC racing skis and boots back in the 80's. zero lateral stability, zero ability to apply torque, had to finesse and smear the turn....oh yeah, no metal edges. we had a great time as 15yo kids doing this.



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Re: Trying the Full Johnny

Post by lowangle al » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:36 am

lilcliffy wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:25 pm
Johnny wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:50 am
Oh by the way, I'm sorry to mention that this was only 3/4 Johnny:

No cables, no flexors, no helmets, no clothes

Looking forward to see the real Full-Johnny (4/4) video... 8-)
This is a most important missing requirement for the Full Johnny.
Be sure to check your local regulations, it may not be legal everywhere, and don't leave any skidmarks in your sitzmarks!



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