Full side zip pants?
- Woodserson
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Full side zip pants?
I’m having a hell of a time finding shell, noninsulated pants that have full side zips.
Goretex or equivalent generic is fine.
I have a pair of Marmots I love but they stopped making them.
I’ve found some that are insulated (Arctica, Descente) but I want shells.
I often skin in my long johns and then put my pants on before descent and the full zip means I don’t have to take off my boots.
Any ideas?
EDIT Looking for hard wearing pants for mountain/rock applications and edge guards at the ankle, etc. Full on ski pant
Goretex or equivalent generic is fine.
I have a pair of Marmots I love but they stopped making them.
I’ve found some that are insulated (Arctica, Descente) but I want shells.
I often skin in my long johns and then put my pants on before descent and the full zip means I don’t have to take off my boots.
Any ideas?
EDIT Looking for hard wearing pants for mountain/rock applications and edge guards at the ankle, etc. Full on ski pant
Last edited by Woodserson on Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Full side zip pants?
"Outdoor Research Furio Pant" [sic]
https://www.backcountry.com/outdoor-res ... -pant-mens
Buy two sizes, keep best fit, return other.
Different bodies, diff' fit.
https://www.backcountry.com/outdoor-res ... -pant-mens
Read reviews regarding sizing.Details
Hybrid-mapped ski pant delivers ample protection and better comfort
GORE-TEX Paclite is ruggedly waterproof and remarkably light
GORE-TEX C-Knit seat and knees for better breathability
Gusseted construction ensures freedom of movement
Full-length side zippers for easy on-and-off and ventilation
Stretch mesh gaiters keep snow out of your boots
Adjustable waist with attachments for suspenders (sold separately)
Pockets 1 zippered thigh
Waist adjustable tabs
Side Zips yes, double separating
Gaiters yes, stretch
Claimed Weight 1 lb 5.4 oz
Recommended Use skiing, snowboarding
Manufacturer Warranty lifetime
Buy two sizes, keep best fit, return other.
Different bodies, diff' fit.
- Peter P
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Re: Full side zip pants?
The Arcteryx Beta pants have a full size zip, I believe. Look for the "Beta" pants, not the "Beta AR" which I have and love, but don't have full side zips.
- randoskier
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Re: Full side zip pants?
I have a pair of Mountain Hardwear, Exposure2 full-zip pants. Really nice and light and durable- Gore-tex Pac-lite. I bought them two years ago. I bought them direct from MH, they were on-sale for only $75. My wife got a pair too. I checked their site and only see these pants in a 3/4 zip now. Happy hunting.
- randoskier
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Re: Full side zip pants?
99 bucks chez REI. If you are an REI member and use code- MEMBER23 then they are only 80 bucksWoodserson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:40 amI’m having a hell of a time finding shell, noninsulated pants that have full side zips.
Goretex or equivalent generic is fine.
I have a pair of Marmots I love but they stopped making them.
I’ve found some that are insulated (Arctica, Descente) but I want shells.
I often skin in my long johns and then put my pants on before descent and the full zip means I don’t have to take off my boots.
Any ideas?
Also- https://www.rei.com/product/127338/rei- ... pants-mens
- Woodserson
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Re: Full side zip pants?
I'm in Europe right now without a VPN and can't access the Backcountry site, I keep getting a redirect. Thanks for checking. Looks like OR discontinued the Furio, and they don't have anything else with full zipsTallGrass wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:52 am"Outdoor Research Furio Pant" [sic]
https://www.backcountry.com/outdoor-res ... -pant-mens
Read reviews regarding sizing.Details
Hybrid-mapped ski pant delivers ample protection and better comfort
GORE-TEX Paclite is ruggedly waterproof and remarkably light
GORE-TEX C-Knit seat and knees for better breathability
Gusseted construction ensures freedom of movement
Full-length side zippers for easy on-and-off and ventilation
Stretch mesh gaiters keep snow out of your boots
Adjustable waist with attachments for suspenders (sold separately)
Pockets 1 zippered thigh
Waist adjustable tabs
Side Zips yes, double separating
Gaiters yes, stretch
Claimed Weight 1 lb 5.4 oz
Recommended Use skiing, snowboarding
Manufacturer Warranty lifetime
Buy two sizes, keep best fit, return other.
Different bodies, diff' fit.
- Woodserson
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Re: Full side zip pants?
Thank you but too light. I have full zip rain pants, I'm looking for the heavier exterior nylon hardshells for this application.randoskier wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:49 am99 bucks chez REI. If you are an REI member and use code- MEMBER23 then they are only 80 bucksWoodserson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:40 amI’m having a hell of a time finding shell, noninsulated pants that have full side zips.
Goretex or equivalent generic is fine.
I have a pair of Marmots I love but they stopped making them.
I’ve found some that are insulated (Arctica, Descente) but I want shells.
I often skin in my long johns and then put my pants on before descent and the full zip means I don’t have to take off my boots.
Any ideas?
Also- https://www.rei.com/product/127338/rei- ... pants-mens
- Woodserson
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Re: Full side zip pants?
Thanks looking now. I usually don't look at Arc'teryx due to the sticker shock (don't even get me started on Stio) but these look not bad price wise
Might be too light fabric weight? Really want the heavier duty stuff for these
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Re: Full side zip pants?
Whoops, should have read comments more carefully first. My suggestions seem to be too light for the application!
I have used Black Diamond Stormline Stretch Full-Zip pants for years now. Got about 1500 miles of skiing on the current pair.
It is a 2.5L fabric, but I have been surprised these have beat many 3L fabrics in durability and waterproofness. Design is okay too.
Do no go with Rab Downpour at least, their membrane comes off easily
Montbell at least used to make full-zipped pants.
Marmot PreCip ECO and Minimalist seemed stronger than their predecessors - have not personally tested outside the store
Arcteryx Beta LT is the most durable and reliable of all my recommendations, more pricey and heavier, but bombproof.
Stellar Equipment might have something you like
Thing is, mentioned above are the most lightweight options, as I come to Telemark from BCX touring perspective. But I have had my fair share of crashes on the BD pants. There may be some I missed, so I will update the list if I remember something else.
I have used Black Diamond Stormline Stretch Full-Zip pants for years now. Got about 1500 miles of skiing on the current pair.
It is a 2.5L fabric, but I have been surprised these have beat many 3L fabrics in durability and waterproofness. Design is okay too.
Do no go with Rab Downpour at least, their membrane comes off easily
Montbell at least used to make full-zipped pants.
Marmot PreCip ECO and Minimalist seemed stronger than their predecessors - have not personally tested outside the store
Arcteryx Beta LT is the most durable and reliable of all my recommendations, more pricey and heavier, but bombproof.
Stellar Equipment might have something you like
Thing is, mentioned above are the most lightweight options, as I come to Telemark from BCX touring perspective. But I have had my fair share of crashes on the BD pants. There may be some I missed, so I will update the list if I remember something else.
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Re: Full side zip pants?
Hey Woods,
Finding good touring (and field) pants with full-side zips seems to be scarce these days-
I can highly recommend Fjallraven Keb Eco-Shell Trousers.
I am extremely impressed with the durability and performance of FJ's eco-shell fabric.
There is a "Bertagen" Eco-Shell model as well that perhaps might be even better for ski touring...
Finding good touring (and field) pants with full-side zips seems to be scarce these days-
I can highly recommend Fjallraven Keb Eco-Shell Trousers.
I am extremely impressed with the durability and performance of FJ's eco-shell fabric.
There is a "Bertagen" Eco-Shell model as well that perhaps might be even better for ski touring...
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
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Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.