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Weigh In

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:27 am
by Manney
This is the time when skiers are at peak fitness. Maybe to the point of fatigue if you live in the Rockies. Not a bad time to step on the scales. Can confirm things before buying skis now on sale.

This link will take you to a BMI calculator.

https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educat ... micalc.htm

Plug in height and weight and it spits out a number. Use that number to vote.

Don’t read anything into the number. Speed skiers seem to be a little chunkier. Tech skiers tend in the middle. XC skiers lighter. All “normal” regardless what the numbers say. Featherweights and heavyweights who live on skis rip. This we know.

Cast your vote on where you are. All anonymous I hope. First time using the poll function here.

If you wish to add comment, maybe something on where you regularly ski. Groomed hill, groomed trail, slack country, back country, heavy alpine.

Re: Weigh In

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 12:16 pm
by Montana St Alum
This gives you your current and optimum BMI based on age and gender as well, so it might be more helpful:

https://www.smartbmicalculator.com/

Also, people who have lower fat/higher muscle makeup will register higher BMI, just based on weight.

Re: Weigh In

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:03 pm
by bauerb
what a load of rubbish. I have spent most of my adult life as "obese" according to standard BMI calculations....and that is because I am built like a football running back. my genetics cause me to carry a great deal of muscle mass and a low body fat %. I am reminded of this in every Nordic or Skimo race, or Sky running race. when I line up next to the tiny little athletes in full body lycra, I look like I stole a kids suit, or the store only had XS sizes. I am on a very serious nutrition plan to ensure that my body weight is as optimized as I can get it. I am super lean, but look like I have no business competing in endurance events. the good news is that because I am always on the verge of a being "obese" by BMI calculations, if I find an injured athlete, I can prob carry them out to get help, but the reverse will never be true.

this is what BMI Obesity looks like running The Rut at Big Sky last fall.
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Re: Weigh In

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:23 pm
by Manney
It is what it is.

There are “bmi types” in sports. Is the term somatotypes? Not absolutes but clear divisions. When I was competitively skiing, coaches would suggest switches in discipline. Guys who really wanted slalom would do better freestyle. Opposite was true. Sometimes they’d say “you have the build of a ___ skier”. None of us would have done well XC… everyone of those guys were built differently.

Kinda see XCD, tele, whatever was being in the middle. Maybe we will see this diversity in responses. Maybe not. Never know until you ask.

Re: Weigh In

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 2:17 pm
by Montana St Alum
I was mountain biking with my son and his friend, who is a "man mountain" with an obese rating (he's not) and we were being chased up the trail by some 14 y.o. with a BMI of -9. We were dying, but, damn. He finally pulled over to wait for his dad, or we'd have all died.

I was happy to keep up and thinking thank God for the man mountain because I was dropping him, when he pointed out we had girly man bodies. I had to laugh, because I was thinking the same thing!

Re: Weigh In

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 2:55 pm
by bauerb
I have just crossed weights with my 20yo son within the past year. I am hell bent on keeping by weight as as low as possible and my son has found the gym and it trying to gain a lot of muscle. we crossed paths last year as I was able to lose some weight and he gained some. I went through that phase when I was about his age. I have not lifted weights in 30 years, but it seems that the muscle I gained during those years was basically somewhat permanent. I had managed to lose some upper body mass in the last 2 years, but Nordic ski training /racing this year bulked me up again in arms/shoulders. great...

Re: Weigh In

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:49 pm
by Manney
Did a search. Nothing out there for telemark skiers. The bmi of elite downhill is ~27. The bmi of elite XC is ~23. Considering telemark includes traverse, climb, and descend is ideal bmi could be in the middle. Maybe ~25 range.

https://www.scirp.org/pdf/aa_2017051014202917.pdf

https://www.topendsports.com/events/wi ... skiing.htm

Re: Weigh In

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:58 pm
by lowangle al
I had to use my height with skis on to get out of the "fat" catagory. I couldn't have done it without risers.

All kidding aside, I usually lose 5-10lbs from the time I decide to lose the holiday/SAD effects weight. That's usually in March, and I lose the weight by the end of April.

My target weight is 178, I'm not too unhappy at 184 and I feel like a hog at 190. At 174 I'm pretty lean, but I can't get there without a serious dieting effort.

At my age and after my work history I have no desire to push myself past a moderate level of exercise. I take it easy and figure I'll get my cardio in on the uphills. Also, IMO when you plan on being out there for 3 or four hours you don't need to keep up a high intensity level.

Re: Weigh In

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:13 pm
by mca80
BMI is simplistic garbage. Last winter I was 41 yrs old, 5'4", 138 lbs, not an inch of fat on me. Technically obese. I have a 27" inseem and tons of upper body muscle. Also, @bauerb, you're more ripped than I am, and older too. That's f'n awesome.

Re: Weigh In

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:37 pm
by Manney
Run the calc and rejoice. 5’4” @138# isn’t obese. It’s pretty much middle normal. 23.7