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Sleeping bag?

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:40 am
by voilenerd
Any recommendations on what sleeping bag to buy for winter camping? My old down bag has too many holes and needs replaced and is frankly too heavy and bulky. I’m in Wyoming so our winters can be brutal.

Thanks!

Re: Sleeping bag?

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:44 am
by Krummholz
Check out @ALinsdau on YouTube. He in your neck of the woods… He’s got a ton of reviews and videos on winter camping.

Sleeping Bags:



And one from Tom M (here) @tomm9850.



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Re: Sleeping bag?

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:39 am
by spopepro
If I was overnighting in the winds, I’d take one of the windstopper western mountaineering bags. Temp requirements are a personal thing, but there’s every option. The reason I like the windstopper bags is that the frost that inevitably collects overnight on the surface of the bag is well kept out and the down stays dry.

I essentially only see western mountaineering and feathered friends bags out in the truly cold.

Re: Sleeping bag?

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:56 am
by JohnSKepler
I'm not using this yet but I plan to be. I've read really good reviews. Zenbivy.com

Re: Sleeping bag?

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 11:54 am
by Lhartley
Same, will be trying out zenbivy for sure, awesome reviews on rokslide

Re: Sleeping bag?

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:58 pm
by spopepro
I appreciate the innovation, but the zenbivy offerings seem firmly 3 season to me. And i'm someone who takes quilts spring skiing/mountaineering. Where are y'all thinking of taking them?

Re: Sleeping bag?

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:32 pm
by Theme
I have no idea about Wyoming - what are the temps like?

What is the primary use? Pulled in a pulk or stuffed in a pack? Multi-day or multi-week use? R-value or your sleeping pad, what kind of a tent do you use? What kind of a puffy jacket are you using, are you willing to sometimes extend your comfort with it on you?

Cumulus in Poland has great options and is customizable, and you are not paying for taxes if you choose something under $800 I hear.

Re: Sleeping bag?

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:18 pm
by tkarhu
I have one down 3-season sleeping bag of about 1 kg, one synthetic similar bag of similar weight, and one ultra light quilt, which I just bought for summer use mainly. The down bag is a Rab Neutrino 400, the synthetic 3-season bag Carinthia G-180 and the quilt is a King’s Canyon UL quilt. I sleep in lean-to shelters and in a tent. I think you can find lighter, ~800 g 3-season bags nowadays.

My idea has been to use the synthetic G-180 bag on top of the down bag. However, I have used them in around 0’ C, and in such temperatures I sleep better with one bag only. In -20’ C two bags would be necessary I guess. But with the Neutrino + King’s Canyon you could go to -10’ C easily I guess, too, and probably survive sudden -20’ C or even -30’ C nights, when wearing your camp clothes inside the bag (yet I might not fit into my Neutrino with all the clothes, it is a snug fit).

The idea of a synthetic bag on top of a down bag is to improve moisture handling. And the idea of layering sleeping bags is to improve multi-functionality. Of course a top bag needs to be over-sized, so one might not be that warm, when you use a top bag on its own.

Re: Sleeping bag?

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:10 pm
by spopepro
tkarhu wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:18 pm
I have one down 3-season sleeping bag of about 1 kg, one synthetic similar bag of similar weight, and one ultra light quilt, which I just bought for summer use mainly. The down bag is a Rab Neutrino 400, the synthetic 3-season bag Carinthia G-180 and the quilt is a King’s Canyon UL quilt. I sleep in lean-to shelters and in a tent. I think you can find lighter, ~800 g 3-season bags nowadays.

My idea has been to use the synthetic G-180 bag on top of the down bag. However, I have used them in around 0’ C, and in such temperatures I sleep better with one bag only. In -20’ C two bags would be necessary I guess. But with the Neutrino + King’s Canyon you could go to -10’ C easily I guess, too, and probably survive sudden -20’ C or even -30’ C nights, when wearing your camp clothes inside the bag (yet I might not fit into my Neutrino with all the clothes, it is a snug fit).

The idea of a synthetic bag on top of a down bag is to improve moisture handling. And the idea of layering sleeping bags is to improve multi-functionality. Of course a top bag needs to be over-sized, so one might not be that warm, when you use a top bag on its own.
I did this. I have a 15F down quilt and a 45F synthetic that is oversized and made with a zipper. It works very well in a very wide variety of conditions and configurations. I’ve been happy in cold conditions, but I wouldn’t trust it in the winter in the winds or alaska.

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Re: Sleeping bag?

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:48 pm
by voilenerd
Thanks for the tips. Will checkout those videos!