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Is there any kind of 3-pin Switchback type binding?
Volie 3-pin hardwire: https://www.voile.com/voile-hardwire-3- ... nding.html
Great binding- I have it on two different skis. I don't like the Voile bale as much as Rotte's- but it is an excellent binding. The Voile bale is better for modern plastic Tele boots- the Rotte is better for leather touring boots.
You can also switch the Voile cartirdges (which are the same as the standard Switchback) for the stiffer Switchback x2 cartridges if you want more resistance.
So forego the free-pivot option entirely? I will admit I had no problem touring in fixed 3-pin with the Objectives. They're a little shorter and a little lighter but I was, honestly, stunned how well the 3-pin tours. I guess I thought it would be difficult touring with the forefoot held against the ski but that didn't seem to be the case at all.
If I go this route I'll use the Voile 10mm riser that I can mount without compromising the integrity of the ski.
Question: how much of the height of modern boots is for control and how much is to further aid the release system in releasing as it should? I have heard that a 'portion' of the rigidity of modern boots is for the release system.
Is there any kind of 3-pin Switchback type binding?
Volie 3-pin hardwire: https://www.voile.com/voile-hardwire-3- ... nding.html
Great binding- I have it on two different skis. I don't like the Voile bale as much as Rotte's- but it is an excellent binding. The Voile bale is better for modern plastic Tele boots- the Rotte is better for leather touring boots.
You can also switch the Voile cartirdges (which are the same as the standard Switchback) for the stiffer Switchback x2 cartridges if you want more resistance.
So forego the free-pivot option entirely? I will admit I had no problem touring in fixed 3-pin with the Objectives. They're a little shorter and a little lighter but I was, honestly, stunned how well the 3-pin tours. I guess I thought it would be difficult touring with the forefoot held against the ski but that didn't seem to be the case at all.
Oh- ok- now I understand more completely-
you are looking for a 3pin Tele binding with a free-pivot mode? I am personally, not aware of such a binding- which certainly does not mean that it doesn't exist.
I noticed that @Woodserson posted on the site recently- perhaps he can help you here. I am pretty sure that he uses the 3pin hardwire on wide (eg V6) big mountain touring skis...
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
... I was, honestly, stunned how well the 3-pin tours.
Well, there you go -- from your own experience.
Stunned is a pretty strong word.
See, HERE is a perfect example of ME engaging in what I consider to be the greatest sin! (Never let theory override empirical data. And if you have no empirical data go get some or shut the hell up.) I’d never toured in a fixed 3-pin and assumed, from observation, that it would be cumbersome. Yes, it be those of us most passionate who ultimately run afoul of our own sensibilities. Kudos for calling me out on that @stilltryin ! I owe you a beer or a pint of Jaegermeister, your choice. All you must do to claim your prize is come visit the Wasatch and point out the biggest flaws in my technique- preferably before the Jaegermeister but after may actually work better. Bear River Range to be exact, probably not too far from where you are!
Hey, all I did was repeat what you said.
It gets down to what you mean by "tour" (and how your touring might evolve) -- the steeper the up and use of skins, the more free pivot fits the bill.
I wonder if I ought to take the skis, bindings, and boots to Olan Mills, get a nice family portrait sitting on a basket or something, and put the whole rig up for sale on FB Marketplace, KSL, and eBay. For $1,000 someone who likes NTN and with better knees could get a kick-ass package with very little use on it. Of course, I'd then have to throw that $1,000 into a similar set of skis and bindings more in line with what's working for me. Or, split 'em up and see if they sell separately.
