Telemark Talk / Telemark Tips Forum

I skied a Summitcone Pariah this year at the ski hill and I really liked it. While I don’t really like scales for low angle skiing, I think they are really useful where full skins are required. In the East, just because you pulled skins, doesn’t mean traverses aren’t required. While wax would work when it’s cold, it just isn’t the answer for me, when full skins are required.
So has anyone skied with Summitcone scales?
Thank you

Hey @FeyBrothers I have yet to see a review of your scaled skis either here or the other forum. Maybe you should work with someone on these forums to review your scales. Get in touch with me, I have a couple of guys I would recommend. I am not one of those guys either!

Figured I'd give this post a little bump, these skis have certainly piqued my curiosity.
The website mentions "aggressive scale pattern."
I'm curious how much camber they have, and how well they climb. How do they compare to other scaled skis?
Has anyone tried them?

It’s an alpine cambered ski, very similar to the Pariah, however you can detect a difference between the Vagabond paulownia core and the Pariah beech/poplar core.
It’s an aggressive pattern, and rather long as well.
I can’t tell you how it climbs, I have been skiing when I’m not working or getting my chores done. For me it’s a tourist ski, for going east, I live in Michigan. My snow is now melting, so I may mount it this weekend. I do need to ride some chairs this weekend, I have not skied at the ski hill in a month. Man, skiing on natural snow without lifts sure has been great!

I have 174 cm Vagabond 106 BC/TTS Transit and use it for ascending/descending low angle quick hits and descending more moderate 20 to 35 degree slopes in the backcountry. I use skins on anything greater than 15 or so degrees on the up. I measured camber at 6mm. I have not used any other scaled ski.

@fisheater
Please report back if you mount them. Do you have the Scale Vagabond 97 skis?

@Wingman25
Looks like you have a dream kit with the 106 and TTS transit! Share some pics if you can.

Thanks for the camber info.

I'm surprised you're switching to skins at a 15-degree slope. From my readings, (mind you, snow conditions have an impact) but I would have thought it was more around 20 degrees that fish scale XCD skis lose traction. Some skis perform better than others at 20 degrees due to their camber (or rather, their lack of camber). I was hoping that maybe, just maybe, the Vagabonds would have a little extra advantage.

I have the Vagabond 97. I’ll report after I try them. We have a big thaw here in Michigan. I may mount them Saturday and try them uphill at the ski hill Sunday morning.
Just remember, one time out isn’t much of a review

fatskinning wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:54 am

@fisheater
Please report back if you mount them. Do you have the Scale Vagabond 97 skis?

@Wingman25
Looks like you have a dream kit with the 106 and TTS transit! Share some pics if you can.

Thanks for the camber info.

I'm surprised you're switching to skins at a 15-degree slope. From my readings, (mind you, snow conditions have an impact) but I would have thought it was more around 20 degrees that fish scale XCD skis lose traction. Some skis perform better than others at 20 degrees due to their camber (or rather, their lack of camber). I was hoping that maybe, just maybe, the Vagabonds would have a little extra advantage.

I will submit pics if I can figure out how. The 15 degrees is my estimate of the steepest I have been able to navigate with my limited experience on scales. Perhaps 20 degrees is possible under the right conditions. You may want to call Erik Fey at aspinockwoods.com in New Hampshire. I have been having a blast with them.