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why is snow so slow?

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:29 pm
by blitzskier
got a couple runs in today, being spring the snow is thawing out and has strange tendancie. My question is when on a north slope in the sun, the skiing is fairly fast, then all of a sudden I pass under a shadow of a Pine tree, and whooa baby its like I hitting the brakes. I would guess the snow is colder in the shade and would it not be faster than the slush?
?what is going on here at the scientific level?

I am skiing the 145 Altai Hok, so maybe the skin is grippy, I do wax the skin.

Re: why is snow so slow?

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:58 am
by phoenix
I think you will get more replies on the regular talk forum.

Re: why is snow so slow?

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:05 pm
by Montana St Alum
It's the opposite, without skins. Fast in the shade, over the handlebars in the sun.

Re: why is snow so slow?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:57 am
by blitzskier
thats what i thought, i'll have to bring out a waxless xc ski and try it.

Re: why is snow so slow?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:06 am
by Stephen
The moisture in the skins from the warm, wet snow may be freezing in the cold snow in the shade and causing drag.

Re: why is snow so slow?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:14 am
by blitzskier
well that make more sense, thanks for the input

Re: why is snow so slow?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:51 am
by Gusaroo
My guess/hypothesis is that when a ski is running nicely it is running on a hydrodynamic film of water, caused by the friction between the snow and the wax/base. The colder snow in the shadows did not melt into a water film.
Just an idea for discussion.