I feel like I'm going crazy. Everyone everywhere talks about the Outlaw X and it's "Smooth and Copious Flex," and how it's the best tele binding of all time.
I can barely drop a knee in the pair I'm trying, it feels endlessly stiff. I have already removed the small spring and set it to the least stiff setting, and it feels like my heel is barely lifting off of the ski. Am I doing something wrong or could there be something wrong with my bindings? Or does my style of turn just have to change for this binding?
I switched to ntn this year and was expecting it to be stiffer, but my meidjos ski amazingly and I have no problems forming my turns on them. Am I just not built for the outlaws? Appreciate any feedback/ideas.
Is the Outlaw X an alpine binding?
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Re: Is the Outlaw X an alpine binding?
More details, like boots, skis, skiing experience and style, weight, height, would help get a better answer.
I ski Meidjo and will be trying the Outlaw X this winter.
I ski Meidjo and will be trying the Outlaw X this winter.
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Re: Is the Outlaw X an alpine binding?
Yes, additional info can help to understand your perspective.
With older Tx Pros, I could tell a significant difference between the Meidjo and the Ox. On new Tx Pros that difference is harder to feel. If you are also on the new Tx Pro, it takes a few days for the bellows to soften, but even then, the two bindings seem to feel more similar (Ox single spring on 2 and Meidjo with stiffer springs).
Years ago, I had gotten a pair of Rottefella Freerides and I had a similar experience to yours. The first few days I thought I'd had a stroke or something. I just couldn't make them work. For me, the key technique was to ensure that I had significant pressure on the cuff of the trailing ski. Once I got used to that, everything clicked. Also, with the new Tx Pro, both my son and I had that same feeling for the first two days or so because of the greater flex stiffness. I am on the Ox now, with the center spring removed, so only one spring and I have it at about 2 on the adjustment screw.
So, I'd concentrate on the idea of driving the cuff with significant pressure on the trailing ski to start out. I think after a few days of that, you'll begin to have more success.
With older Tx Pros, I could tell a significant difference between the Meidjo and the Ox. On new Tx Pros that difference is harder to feel. If you are also on the new Tx Pro, it takes a few days for the bellows to soften, but even then, the two bindings seem to feel more similar (Ox single spring on 2 and Meidjo with stiffer springs).
Years ago, I had gotten a pair of Rottefella Freerides and I had a similar experience to yours. The first few days I thought I'd had a stroke or something. I just couldn't make them work. For me, the key technique was to ensure that I had significant pressure on the cuff of the trailing ski. Once I got used to that, everything clicked. Also, with the new Tx Pro, both my son and I had that same feeling for the first two days or so because of the greater flex stiffness. I am on the Ox now, with the center spring removed, so only one spring and I have it at about 2 on the adjustment screw.
So, I'd concentrate on the idea of driving the cuff with significant pressure on the trailing ski to start out. I think after a few days of that, you'll begin to have more success.