Israeli depravity comes to the ski resort

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Re: Israeli depravity comes to the ski resort

Post by Capercaillie » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:50 pm

mca80 wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:13 pm
Wow, some "serious" "news" sources linked above. Lmao.
The Jerusalem Post and the Irish Times are both mainstream media. In case you missed it:

"‘Buying quiet’: Inside the Israeli plan that propped up Hamas. Binyamin Netanyahu’s government has encouraged payments of billions of dollars to Gaza militant group"

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle ... -up-hamas/

"IDF knew of Hamas's plan to kidnap 250 before October 7 attack"

https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-806634

Yes, there are snuff films being made, paid for by the Israeli government with US taxpayer money.
mca80 wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:13 pm
And then Edwin Black's book. Lmao. Can we get some other completely unfounded / irrelevant conspiracy theory recos from you?
Edwin Black is one of the world's preeminent Holocaust historians, a prominent Jewish activist, and the son of Holocaust survivors. So of course it makes perfect sense that in the upside-down world of "Israeli values" he would be called an anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist.
mca80 wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:13 pm
P.S. my mom's mom left Austria for USA in 1938 I believe, and her dad's parents left Russia for USA in 1917. If it weren't for their foresight I wouldn't be here. Unless you think that whole thing was "fake" too.
And this is no thanks to the Zionists. While the Zionists were working hand-in-hand with the Nazis to deport Jews to Palestine, the Bolsheviks had the highest representation of Jews in senior positions of any government at the time, and did more to combat anti-Semitism than any other European state. During WWII the Soviet Union took in more Jewish refugees than all other countries combined, and saved by far the vast majority of Holocaust survivors. But yeah, evil communists.
mca80 wrote:
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P.P.S. I understand the chauvinism and it isn't just Israeli. Most American Jews have a Jewish banker, accountant, dentist, doctor, lawyer, travel agent, etc. I find it distasteful in certain respects, very normal in others since just about every tribe on Earth does it. The only ones who pretend otherwise are the communists who ostensibly believe only in the worker and other progressive liberal nutjobs.
It was more like offhand and casual dehumanization of others, "Israel above all else in everything," and displays of arrogant superiority. If anything, I got the impression that immigrants from Israel tended to avoid Jewish-Americans.

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Re: Israeli depravity comes to the ski resort

Post by mca80 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 4:16 am

Capercaillie wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:50 pm

The Jerusalem Post and the Irish Times are both mainstream media.
I made no reference to whether your sources were mainstream or otherwise, but if they could be taken seriously (they can't).
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Edwin Black is one of the world's preeminent Holocaust historians, a prominent Jewish activist, and the son of Holocaust survivors. So of course it makes perfect sense that in the upside-down world of "Israeli values" he would be called an anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist.
I think he went to school with my mom, or in any case grew up in one of the only neighborhoods for Jews on the north side. In any case just because he is a self-loathing super liberal nut doesn't mean he is "one of the world's preeminent." Fact is he doesn't have anything close to this reputation and there are many valid criticisms of his work.
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Bolsheviks had the highest representation of Jews in senior positions of any government at the time, and did more to combat anti-Semitism than any other European state. During WWII the Soviet Union took in more Jewish refugees than all other countries combined, and saved by far the vast majority of Holocaust survivors. But yeah, evil communists.
Stalin was _removing_ Jews from governmental positions, fomenting anti-Semitism in Ukraine, had plans to deport them all from the country, used propganda to refer only to Soviet Jews targeted by Nazi Germany as mere Soviets with zero reference to the fact that they were Jewish was the main reason for their extermination. But whatever world you live in with these alternative facts, I don't want to go. Also, any citations re number of refugees because I have never seen any data indicating that is true. And yes, evil communists who thought (and many Russians still do think) the peoples of the Baltic states and Ukraine were lesser than themselves and therefore annexed those places (sound like familiar criticism of some particular people today?).
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It was more like offhand and casual dehumanization of others, "Israel above all else in everything," and displays of arrogant superiority. If anything, I got the impression that immigrants from Israel tended to avoid Jewish-Americans.
So kinda like the typical progressive liberal?



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Post by mca80 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:58 pm

Of course when confronted by facts that threaten his narrative he disappears. Which basically proves my last point--the modern progressive is the most arrogant, bigoted, asshole there is.... worse than jews and israelis, he just disappears when the going gets tough. These people should be prohibited from any public life, or gassed to death because they will certainly do it to the rest of us if we don't do it to them first.



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Post by wooley12 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:23 pm

Well that's pretty harsh. No way to have a conversation with someone who thinks gassing the other side is acceptable discourse.



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Re: Israeli depravity comes to the ski resort

Post by mca80 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 5:19 am

wooley12 wrote:
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Well that's pretty harsh. No way to have a conversation with someone who thinks gassing the other side is acceptable discourse.
Yeah the Left cheered when Trump was shot at and an innocent died. He wasn't "innocent" by their assessmenr because he was at a Trump rally. As I said, if it isn't done to them first they will do it to the others. They are now cheering the murder of a ceo because "corporations are evil." As I said, most despicable people in history and if they aren't stopped they will try to kill or re-educate everyone not on their side.

What would have been the reason not to have a conversation had I not said what I did? Because clearly you and your ilk refuse to acknowledge us deplorables as worthy of conversation. Disingenious of you to make this comment when you did, yet another example of how disgusting the left is.



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Re: Israeli depravity comes to the ski resort

Post by wooley12 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 6:28 pm

Nice manifesto. Think of getting some counseling. Bye and good luck.



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Re: Israeli depravity comes to the ski resort

Post by Capercaillie » Tue Dec 24, 2024 6:06 pm

mca80 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:58 pm
Of course when confronted by facts that threaten his narrative he disappears. Which basically proves my last point--the modern progressive is the most arrogant, bigoted, asshole there is.... worse than jews and israelis, he just disappears when the going gets tough. These people should be prohibited from any public life, or gassed to death because they will certainly do it to the rest of us if we don't do it to them first.
Apologies, I was too busy skiing. Yes, straight to the gas chambers for that great crime.

IDK why you think I am a liberal or a progressive.

On the other hand, Israel propagandists always play on identity politics and claim that Israel is the most liberal and progressive country in the Middle East. Yeah, let's shoot some children for sport, because gay pride:
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https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-806531
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Also, any citations re number of refugees because I have never seen any data indicating that is true.
Somewhere between 200,000 to 300,000 Jewish refugees came to the Soviet Union from only Poland alone. The exact number is not known because the Soviet Union did not have a racially-based white supremacist immigration quota system, like the United States and Canada had.

"There is no present and no future for young Jews. They escape for their lives. They get away by different methods: on foot, by auto, train, carts and every other kind of transport. The border is open. The Soviets do nothing to prevent it… It is reliably estimated that more than a million refugees escaped to Russia. However many came they were still well received."

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/es ... viet-union

According to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum:

https://exhibitions.ushmm.org/americans ... -1933-1945

"Though estimates vary, somewhere between 180,000 and 220,000 European refugees immigrated to the United States between 1933 and 1945. The United States accepted more refugees fleeing Nazi persecution than any other country in the world." This is obviously a bald-faced lie, but that is US "history" for you. How many of these "180,000 and 220,000 European refugees" were Jewish? The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum claims, without evidence, that "most" were. "Most" is not a number. The wording chosen by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum is deliberately misleading, in an attempt to deceive you into believing that the United States took in 220,000 Jewish refugees. That is a lie. There is a reason why you, like most Americans, have never seen these numbers. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, like all federally funded "historical" institutions, is there to lie and misinform the public.

Two books I am aware of that convey a more accurate history: David Wyman's The Abandonment of the Jews America and the Holocaust, 1941-1945 and Daniel Greene and Edward Phillips' Americans And The Holocaust.

How many Jewish refugees did Canada accept? "None is too many" to quote Canadian minister of immigration Frederick Blair. That is also the title of a book by Irving Abella and Harold Troper (None Is Too Many: Canada and the Jews of Europe 1933–1948).



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