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Canada Freedom Convoy

Post by fisheater » Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:35 am

The Canadian truckers opposing vaccine mandates will arrive in Ottawa today. My understanding is that 90% of the truckers are vaccinated, it’s not a bunch of fringe anti-vaxxers.
The fully vaxed and boosted prime minister of Canada will not be meeting the truckers as he was exposed to Covid. I’m so happy to know that on the Canadian side the prime minister will prevent border crossing without vaccination, even though he doesn’t appear to be able trust the efficacy of the vaccine. I’m sure our president on this side of the border will be in full support.
Fortunately media on both sides of the border will present these truckers as fringe anti vaxxers. Hopefully this movement will die quickly and people will submit to the will of the government. Yes, Fox News are calling these truckers freedom fighters, as had Elon Musk as well. Elon Musk, the traitor whom is moving his business from the People’s Republic to the Free State of Texas.

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Post by Montana St Alum » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:54 am

The Viva Frei Vlog has been interesting.


Separately, Dr. John Campbell in the U.K. has been digesting data on COVID, vaccines and therapeutics for the duration in a very educational manner.



MedCram, in the U.S. has had great videos on the virus and its modes of infection down to the molecular level that are also great sources of information.



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Post by fisheater » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:37 pm

Following up on the Freedom Protest, I have seen the glorious prime minister of Canada, denounce these racist protesters. He has pegged them as white nationalist fringe bigots, and rightly so! Mr. Trudeau has also stated he has nothing against protesters, he himself has supported BLM protests. I will add for Mr.Trudeau, that only a white, racist, bigoted, homophobe would ever point out the arson and looting at BLM peaceful protests. When Stalin opened the prisons and turned the thieves on the Russian people, he knew it was only the unjust society of the Czars that developed that behavior. Any person with a brain and an understanding of human behavior intuitively understand that men that rob, rape, kill, pimp, and push deadly drugs, will immediately change in a just societal structure. The inherent decency of socialism will cause immediate benevolence in such individuals. Those that doubt this should be removed from society.
To date the benevolent Mr. Trudeau has spared releasing the full force of the Canadian government on this mob that has invaded Ottawa. One can only hope this benevolence is not interpreted as weakness! Racism and nationalism in complete denial of science as directed by the government cannot be ignored.
I’m so proud this affront to civil society started in Canada and not in the States. I always thought civil Canadians would be the better behaved side of the border



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Post by Montana St Alum » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:11 am

Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation1:

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."


Embracing fascism, and power concentrated in the "state", when it's convenient for a particular person, will always morph into a system that is NOT convenient for anyone but members of the ruling class.

We now have proposals for the use of facial recognition software to access your tax returns, vaccine cards with photo ID to buy essential supplies, and no requirement to provide ID or signature verification to vote for those who would rule your life.
This is just a dry run for the level of authoritarianism that will be required to "save the planet".

Saving us from "the Wolf", one step at a time.

“A horse having a wolf as a powerful and dangerous enemy lived in constant fear of his life. Being driven to desperation, it occurred to him to seek a strong ally. Whereupon he approached a man, and offered an alliance, pointing out that the wolf was likewise an enemy of the man. The man accepted the partnership at once and offered to kill the wolf immediately, if his new partner would only co-operate by placing his greater speed at the man’s disposal. The horse was willing, and allowed the man to place bridle and saddle upon him. The man mounted, hunted down the wolf, and killed him. “The horse, joyful and relieved, thanked the man, and said: ‘Now that our enemy is dead, remove your bridle and saddle and restore my freedom.’ “Whereupon the man laughed loudly and replied, ‘Never!’ and applied the spurs with a will.”
― Isaac Asimov, quote from Foundation








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Post by Stephen » Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:39 pm

This is just random sh!t, so here goes…

In a very general sort of way, I don’ disagree with @Montana St Alum’s post and ideas.

I tend to lean more left — greater good sort of thing.

All these ideologies (democracy, socialism, communism, …) are based on best-case scenario where everyone behaves in a way that allows the pure form of the ideology to function in a healthy way.

Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem to work that way.
As soon as there are a lot of people, personalities start getting in the way.
Some people (left, right, center, black, white, brown, yellow, atheist, orthodox, …) start acting based on self-interest, rather than in a way that will allow all the freedom to live a happy life.

And, of course we need to start having “rules” because there will always be outliers that just don’t see the world like the majority do, and they start doing things that piss people off.

So, pretty soon, there are systems in place, and people who control or manage the systems, and having things work out to their benefit becomes a temptation.
And then the system is corrupted.
Any system.

Too many people. And, at this point, too much technology. It’ll be interesting, but I think we’re screwed.
People tend to act based on self interest.
There is a really broad range of “what is good for me.”

All these problems are inherent in the nature of the human race.
There is no system that will solve that problem.

On a moment by moment basis, it’s easy to complain about the stupidity of particular situations.
Taking a more global / longer timeline view, I think real solutions are hard to come by.
All solutions are based on a system and philosophy and there is no one-size-fits-all system.
There’s always going to be people who aren’t happy with the way things are going!
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Re: Canada Freedom Convoy

Post by fisheater » Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:35 pm

The Great and Wise Prime Minister of Canada has started to crush this right wing, racist, bigoted, act of terrorism in Ottawa! In a shrewd move by declaring this to be terrorism, he now has claimed the right to seize bank accounts of these terrorists.
Because these terrorists are making life difficult for some citizens of Ottawa. Those of us on the left, that trust benevolent politicians on the left to look out for the greater good support the ultimate goal of leftism, single party rule. Think of how glorious this is, the precedent has set, now government can seize the assets of those in political dissent! Brand them with the scarlet letter of racism! The “good” people will support the government. It brings tears of happiness to my eyes, just as the “good” people of Russia supported the Bolsheviks! After all in the US, the good people supported peaceful protests. Trust me, any reports of destruction of private property, arson, and looting were greatly exaggerated.
Yes, very soon all of North America will have a truly inclusive, equitable society. The media, big tech, industrial, and left leaning global political conglomeration will see to it.
It will be glorious, anyone with a bit of clear vision can see it.
P.S. President Biden is clearly seeing just how far the media will support executive decrees to crush the bigoted right. If we could only eliminate Fox News the future can arrive even sooner!



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Re: Canada Freedom Convoy

Post by Stephen » Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:14 am

Happy to see that you’ve come around. Now just keep drinking that kool-aid when it gets passed around. I think you can find the distribution schedule and locations on NPR.
One day we’ll all be the same and there will be no more strife.
I think the smart people are working on genetic modifications that will make future humans self-reproducing, asexual, a nice tan color, and we’ll all speak one language (basically, English) — but they might have already slipstreamed that mod into the “COVID Vaccination.”
I also hear the global elite are going to unfreeze Mussolini to lead the New World Order, once things get rolling.

Those that don’t get with the program can gather up their guns, ammo, seeds, and year supply of freeze dried food, load it in the back of the pickup, and meet someplace out West (heard it’s either Utah, Idaho, or Wyoming — they won’t tell me). Do whatever you want out there — until the rest of us get out there to straighten things out.



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Post by fisheater » Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:33 am

No those red hats will be brought to heel. Simply branding leaders as terrorists and seizing bank accounts, and other assets. Those red hat leaders will be more concerned about their families than leading some sort of resistance to democratically elected government. The followers will be lost. The monolithic voice of media doesn’t give up anything to Tass, the public will know criminals acting against the general good are being rightfully dealt with.
As for my vision for the future, I’ve been pretty accurate on the big things. Although I must admit that while I correctly saw the direction of the rise of the PRC, I didn’t see how successful they would be.



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Post by connyro » Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:10 am

Funny how the white supremists howled and moaned about BLM protests over the last couple of years and how "un-american" and treasonous they were and needed to be crushed, yet now that the white supremists are protesting, we are all supposed to bend over backwards to accommodate their misinformed and dangerous bullshit because of their "freedums". Weird, right?

Currently, in the wonderful state of Michigan, I noticed that all three republican candidates for AG have expressed their support for criminalizing birth control. I guess taking only women's reproductive right away is just too old school for these conservative morons. Maybe next they can mandate what faith I am allowed to follow or what books I am permitted to read or what color folks are allowed to vote?

A good portion of this bullshit we are going through right now as a society is due to the white men loosing their near total control over the government and society. White men don't like the idea of equality when it infringes on their privilege. There's nothing uglier than an uneducated, bigoted, selfish american who's self-entitled sense of supremacy is being threatened. White majority and conservatism are in their death- throes. Kids these days are unafraid to express their individuality and open- mindness and in a few short years, won't have any tolerance for oppression of POC, LGBTQ, or this ridiculous sense of white supremacy.



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Post by martin2007 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:27 pm

The "Freedom Convoy" is piggy-backing on several ugly forces of which the main impetus isn't opposition to government management of Covid. The anti-mandate stance is a convenient pretext to allow people to act out other disappointments and insecurities about how the world is changing. Have we fessed-up yet (modern Canadian English translation of the French: "to speak the bare-assed truth") about the dog whistling we've so meekly put up with these past weeks? Enough to give tinnitus to a deaf sheepdog. Whistles back and forth between Canadian good ol' boys and their fellow-admirers of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists and the "then-how-come-we-don't-get-a-white-history-month?" crowd of embittered, angry, frightened white folks. We Canadians do have a gentle streak and hate like anything to injure the pride or wave a red flag in the face of Canadian flag-enshrouded patriots. I know, I know... But there were only a handful of confederate flags in full view! Jesus H. Christmas, what's the world coming to? First they ban swastikas. Then they start banning confederate flags! Next thing they'll be trying to ban our assault rifles and force employers to pay a living wage. Fookin' commies!



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