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Re: Canada Freedom Convoy

Post by Montana St Alum » Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:31 am

Thank goodness they haven't handed out sabers to the RCMP, otherwise we'd have the Cossack scene from "Dr. Zhivago"!
The woman crumpled by her mobility scooter was accused of throwing a bike at a horse. I believe the authorities have backed off from that claim.
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Even prior to the onset of "hostilities, Canadian authorities were "visiting" people to "explain" their rights to protest. They'd been monitoring their online behavior.



The House of Commons had planned to debate the use of the "Emergency Act" - essentially a nationwide invocation of martial law - on Friday. They shut down instead.
If you even contributed to GoFundMe the authorities are shutting down your bank accounts and credit cards and are trying to shut down Bitcoin wallets. To their credit, Bitcoin venders are saying hell no!

If you oppose government policies, you will be dealt with.

Yesterday they escalated to rubber bullets and tear gas. The police have removed their name tags and badges to make it harder to report abuses.



Sometimes rubber bullets aren't enough, and you just have to use a rifle butt.
https://rumble.com/vva6hu-canadian-poli ... rifle.html

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Re: Canada Freedom Convoy

Post by connyro » Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:00 am

Oh you poor, poor victims! Dont they know the protesters are white?! Mah freedums!

Where was all your outrage and concern during the BLM protests when POC were getting tear-gassed and beaten? What about their rights and free-dums being stomped? Oh, right. They aren't white enough to warrant your concern. I guess they aren't American enough. Fucking hypocrites.



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Re: Canada Freedom Convoy

Post by Montana St Alum » Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:32 am

connyro wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:00 am
Oh you poor, poor victims! Dont they know the protesters are white?! Mah freedums!

Where was all your outrage and concern during the BLM protests when POC were getting tear-gassed and beaten? What about their rights and free-dums being stomped? Oh, right. They aren't white enough to warrant your concern. I guess they aren't American enough. Fucking hypocrites.
Lots of "First Nation" members in the crowd. Almost everyone in Canada is low on melanin.

In the BLM protests, billions of dollars of damage was done. dozens killed, whole downtown areas were burned to the ground. People were arrested for trying to burn occupied buildings, two attorneys were arrested for trying to burn an occupied police car.

Besides, you have no idea what my outrages are or how they are directed so you aren't in a position to characterize them.
This is about the activities in Canada. Don't try to deflect, these activities stand on their own.

Update:
As of now, the information is that the woman who was trampled is Candice Sero. She's a full blood Mohawk (from Mohawk Territory), but she's white enough that she probably had it coming. Luckily, she just has a broken clavicle.



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Re: Canada Freedom Convoy

Post by connyro » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:18 pm

https://www.rawstory.com/michigan-convo ... n-results/
10 whole dipshits showed up to the "freedom convoy" in Lansing.



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Re: Canada Freedom Convoy

Post by Montana St Alum » Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:52 am

It’s official. After two years of getting a taste of power through imposing COVID restrictions, Trudeau’s ruling coalition has granted themselves emergency powers for 30 days. Immediately, they began the process of making some of those powers, such as the power to freeze bank accounts, permanent. The power to freeze money is classically a terror tactic. In the USSR, Stalin carried out the Pogrom. No need for that, just freeze bank accounts. Who wants their family to starve? If you will just stop your “wrong-think” we’ll give you access to your money. It’s also useful for controlling who can (supporters of the regime) protest and those who can’t (mischief makers!). For Authoritarians, Power isn’t a means to an end (other than to concentrate even more power) it’s an end in and of itself.

For groups such as BLM, evil exists in the hearts and minds of the people. It’s the citizens, after all, who are racists, homophobes, NAZIS! The only way to curb this evil is through the thorough application of authoritarian governance. For them, power is a means to an end.
Groups like this are valuable to Authoritarian governments (or those who aspire to that) because they give legitimacy to the authoritarians.
They can be coopted. They always are.
They must be embraced.


For groups like the Truckers (or the Solidarity movement in Poland that brought down an Authoritarian government – history not lost on the current crop!), evil resides in the accumulation of power among a few, among the authoritarians. They demand a reduction in the power of government to control them. This is an existential threat to authoritarians.
They must be crushed.

It’s been like that time after time, and we still don’t learn. Those other times it wasn’t done right. This time will be different!



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Re: Canada Freedom Convoy

Post by connyro » Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:08 pm

...and in Pennsylvania, the "Freedom Convoy" had but one trucker show up and they had 2 flat tires. That's more flat tires than participants. Are these numbnuts trying to look this ridiculously stupid? but but but MAH FREEDUMS!" https://www.rawstory.com/convoy-flat-tires/



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Re: Canada Freedom Convoy

Post by Stephen » Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:56 pm

Power corrupts.
It doesn’t matter what side of the political spectrum the power is on, it still corrupts.

There are legitimate preferences and grievances from any position on the political spectrum.
For a while, one area of the spectrum has more power, works to promote its position, sets up systems preferring its position (consolidates power), and then power corrupts.

It seems like an endless dance.
In the moment, it all seems so important (and can even be a matter of life or death), in the long run, just part of this endless dance we are in.

I sure wish there was a better way, a more peaceful way, a way everyone could just live a happy, productive, secure life.
But that takes a system.
Oops, here we are again…

Once in a while, two people can figure this out (a happy marriage).
More than 50% of the time, not (sometimes the equivalent of nuclear war).

If just two people often can’t figure out how to live in peace, how the hell are 8,000,000,000 of us going to do it?

It’s like thinking there is one ski setup to do it all!
Few of us are able to pull that off.



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Re: Canada Freedom Convoy

Post by Nitram Tocrut » Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:04 pm

Montana St Alum wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:31 am

Even prior to the onset of "hostilities, Canadian authorities were "visiting" people to "explain" their rights to protest. They'd been monitoring their online behavior.



The House of Commons had planned to debate the use of the "Emergency Act" - essentially a nationwide invocation of martial law - on Friday. They shut down instead.
If you even contributed to GoFundMe the authorities are shutting down your bank accounts and credit cards and are trying to shut down Bitcoin wallets. To their credit, Bitcoin venders are saying hell no!
Just a few precisions.

The House of Commons was shut down on Friday as the police operation was gonna take place. They resume debate during the weekend.

There was fake news of a single mom in BC that had her bank account shut down by the government but that was a fake news that was repeated over and over by deputies of the Conservative party. In all, less than a 100 account were frozen and most of them were contributors from outside of Canada, mainly the US. They targeted large contributors.

A journalist from Fox News wrongly reported that the woman crampled by horses was dead. Of course it was a fake news and she even admitted she made up the story.

As for the "Emergency Act", the government put a end to it today.



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Re: Canada Freedom Convoy

Post by connyro » Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:15 am

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudea ... -1.6361847

aaaaand Trudeau has ended use of Emergencies Act now that the emergency is past and those poor victims of the overbearing government are sent home and their messes cleared from the streets. Canadians can't even dictator right. All the gnashing of teeth over the mean libs taking away "mah rites" for nothing.



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Re: Canada Freedom Convoy

Post by Montana St Alum » Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:34 am

Nitram Tocrut wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:04 pm
Montana St Alum wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:31 am

Even prior to the onset of "hostilities, Canadian authorities were "visiting" people to "explain" their rights to protest. They'd been monitoring their online behavior.



The House of Commons had planned to debate the use of the "Emergency Act" - essentially a nationwide invocation of martial law - on Friday. They shut down instead.
If you even contributed to GoFundMe the authorities are shutting down your bank accounts and credit cards and are trying to shut down Bitcoin wallets. To their credit, Bitcoin venders are saying hell no!
Just a few precisions.

The House of Commons was shut down on Friday as the police operation was gonna take place. They resume debate during the weekend.

There was fake news of a single mom in BC that had her bank account shut down by the government but that was a fake news that was repeated over and over by deputies of the Conservative party. In all, less than a 100 account were frozen and most of them were contributors from outside of Canada, mainly the US. They targeted large contributors.

A journalist from Fox News wrongly reported that the woman crampled by horses was dead. Of course it was a fake news and she even admitted she made up the story.

As for the "Emergency Act", the government put a end to it today.

I love fact checkers. They're position is usually "who are you gonna believe, me, or your lyin' eyes"?
Here's the moment the "protesters attacked police on horseback". Of course, it was stationary protesters in a crowd who could not escape from police as they rode 1200-pound animals into the crowd. Here's the woman not getting trampled:

The absurdity of denying this event occurred is incredible.

"The House of Commons had planned to debate the use of the "Emergency Act" - essentially a nationwide invocation of martial law - on Friday. They shut down instead."
This is true. They then opened again and passed the Emergencies Act.

Trudeau's government then proceeded to start the process of making the financial aspects permanent:
"Freeland said the trucker convoy, which had assembled to protest coronavirus restrictions, had “highlighted the fact” that digital assets and funding mechanisms “weren’t captured” by the Canadian government’s pre-existing surveillance powers. As a result, she said, “the government will also bring forward legislation to provide these authorities to FinTrac on a permanent basis.”

"In reply to a Conservative MP’s question about whether donations as small as $20 would have been affected, the finance official said it would be “rare” but not impossible that small donations could be covered."
The point is you have no idea who was ultimately captured in this operation to freeze funds. The Canadian government didn't even know, a few days ago, who would be included. It was invoked with very little planning other than to smother protests. The very nature of the fact that application of these policies is possibly random and haphazard is a potent weapon against the people who now have no idea if they are even going to be targeted. Everyone has to wonder, "am I next?".

Trudeau "blinked" when he decided not to continue his invocation of the Emergencies act. The Senate debate was becoming more and more acrimonious to the idea of martial law and anti-Trudeau sentiment was on the rise after the "emergency" had been taken care of by local authorities. Also, international banking powers had been planning on introducing digital ID through the Canadian Banking Association.


"Oh, you'd like to renew your driver's license"? We're sorry, you didn't pay your water bill, get vaccinated, or vote for Trudeau.

By invoking financial retributions that are clear overreach, the probability of getting these programs through legislatively go down dramatically. This hurts the "business" of digitizing the information of every Canadian citizen (and could dry up money to politicians from these conglomerates). The pushback from the Senate, from various Canadian and international citizen's rights organizations, from the Canadian Banking Association, provincial and territorial leaders, and from media (even Bill Maher said Trudeau sounded like Hitler!) was what caused him to reverse course. He didn't do it out of the kindness of his heart.

And the precedent is set, now. He can fall back, regroup and try again at any time there's another "emergency". There's ALWAYS another "emergency".



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