YES! AWESOME! I will definitely try to make it out there on the 20th next month and I'll bring the KOMs. Things have been slow on your blog, I'm happy to hear this event is still on!nilsy wrote:Altai Skis is having its annual ski festival (Hoks and Koms) at Sitzmark on January 20th this season. Sitzmark is a small ski hill nestled in the Okanogan Highlands of NE WA. We kind of takeover that day. Lots of demos, pointers, tours. Don Portman comes over and helps out along with our local crew.
We are also doing a Hok demo/instruction at 49* north on January 6th at the nordic center.
Other events are possible too... we are working on that. Also some new videos that are a bit more dynamic
Altai Skis Hok Review
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Woodserson
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Re: Altai Skis Hok Review
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satsuma
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Re: Altai Skis Hok Review
Hopefully others. I'd like to come, but will be busy both days. Does Mountain Gear do any demos of these?nilsy wrote:Altai Skis is having its annual ski festival (Hoks and Koms) at Sitzmark on January 20th this season. Sitzmark is a small ski hill nestled in the Okanogan Highlands of NE WA. We kind of takeover that day. Lots of demos, pointers, tours. Don Portman comes over and helps out along with our local crew.
We are also doing a Hok demo/instruction at 49* north on January 6th at the nordic center.
Other events are possible too... we are working on that. Also some new videos that are a bit more dynamic
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lilcliffy
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Re: Altai Skis Hok Review
I am starting to consider pulling the NNNBC binding off my Hoks...
It isn't the NNNBC boot (Alaska) or binding (Magnum) that I am unhappy with- it is the fact that the adapter plate effectively acts as a riser.
I don't like it- especially with a soft leather XC boot.
I may move to 3-pin, or go back to the universal binding...
Haven't decided yet.
It isn't the NNNBC boot (Alaska) or binding (Magnum) that I am unhappy with- it is the fact that the adapter plate effectively acts as a riser.
I don't like it- especially with a soft leather XC boot.
I may move to 3-pin, or go back to the universal binding...
Haven't decided yet.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Re: Altai Skis Hok Review
Did the updated Hok get a full-wrap steel edge? Not sure.lilcliffy wrote:An update:
I wish that the Hok had a full-wrap steel edge. After only half a season on my Hoks, they are showing significant wear on the tips- above the steel edge.
As a bushwacking ski, the Hok would be a lot more durable with a full-wrap steel edge.
The details image half-way down this page on Altai's site says the updated Hok does have full steel edges: "full steel edges on all Hoks". But several photos below it on the same page show a Hok 147 with partial edges(?).
http://us-store.altaiskis.com/product/h ... ightbox/6/
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lilcliffy
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Re: Altai Skis Hok Review
I have previous gen 145cm Hok- the steel edges are the same, they extend to the base of the raised tip.
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lilcliffy
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Re: Altai Skis Hok Review
So- I pulled the NNNBC binding off my Hoks last night, and re-mounted the X-Trace universal binding.
It is not that I didn't like NNNBC on this ski.
I eventually decided that I wanted the versatility of the universal binding- especially when I take the Hok to work.
Also- although I like my XC boot on this ski- I was not crazy about the riser plate (the adapter plate).
Some more observations on this ski.
This ski is wide- and therefore, if one wants to be able to hold it on edge you really need a 3-pin binding on it, so that one can use a proper Telemark boot. If I used this ski in truly mountainous terrain- I would put a 3-pin-cable binding on it.
That being said you can ride all kinds of wonderful turns on this ski with XC boots, if the snow is deep and soft.
The use of single pole ("Tiak") has been a wonderful learning experience. It can be used as an outrigger to improve stability; a tripod of balance; and can also be used as a brake. In fact, with a Tiak I can actually ski down so pretty extreme slopes- even with XC boots on!
It is not that I didn't like NNNBC on this ski.
I eventually decided that I wanted the versatility of the universal binding- especially when I take the Hok to work.
Also- although I like my XC boot on this ski- I was not crazy about the riser plate (the adapter plate).
Some more observations on this ski.
This ski is wide- and therefore, if one wants to be able to hold it on edge you really need a 3-pin binding on it, so that one can use a proper Telemark boot. If I used this ski in truly mountainous terrain- I would put a 3-pin-cable binding on it.
That being said you can ride all kinds of wonderful turns on this ski with XC boots, if the snow is deep and soft.
The use of single pole ("Tiak") has been a wonderful learning experience. It can be used as an outrigger to improve stability; a tripod of balance; and can also be used as a brake. In fact, with a Tiak I can actually ski down so pretty extreme slopes- even with XC boots on!
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
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martin2007
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Re: Altai Skis Hok Review
I just checked the Altai website. No reference to 2017-18 season, and skis at the US store seems to be "out of stock". Anyone know what's the matter?
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lilcliffy
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Re: Altai Skis Hok Review
Just checked Canadian site:
Hoks are currently out of stock.
Koms are in stock.
Hoks are currently out of stock.
Koms are in stock.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
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Inspiredcapers
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Re: Altai Skis Hok Review
They’re fun, they’ve fueled the urge to go with something that will let me expand my horizons. I plan on putting a 3 pin binding on them as I find the universal binding isn’t adequate enough to fully utilize them. I’ve used the lurk and it gives an added degree of confidence as well. My wife tried them last year and had fun so I’m contemplating a pair of 125’s for her.
Skiing…falling downhill…pretty much the same thing for this klutz.
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Telemarkpete
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Re: Altai Skis Hok Review
Looks like they are now back in stock in the Canadian store - just ordered two pairs and can't wait to give em a try!lilcliffy wrote:Just checked Canadian site:
Hoks are currently out of stock.
Koms are in stock.