Sbound 98s or 112s

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Re: Sbound 98s or 112s

Post by エイダン.シダル » Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:13 pm

freeheelfreemind wrote:
Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:36 am
Whatever you decide on do not delay your purchase. I literally got REI's last pair of 189 S-bound 112s. Then within hours they were sold out of all sizes. Supply issues in this economy.

Good luck.
Second this. I just got one of the last 200cm Gamme on... Earth?

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Re: Sbound 98s or 112s

Post by Stephen » Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:28 am

@Hhowden
Fischer S-Bound 112 Crown/Dual-Skin Xtralite Backcountry - 189cm
$339.95

Four (4) pair available.

https://www.skatepro.com/en-us/744-4651 ... WvEALw_wcB



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Re: Sbound 98s or 112s

Post by Hhowden » Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:54 pm

Tom M wrote:
Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:47 pm
Hhowden wrote:
Tue Nov 02, 2021 6:27 pm


If you haven't already, check out my Youtube channel. There are lots of ski videos, several at Togwotee. It will give you a good idea of what I pick from my quiver for the various conditions and tours in this area.
Tom I'm a huge fan of your channel and it's a big reason why I am so excited to try new places this year. Please keep up the great work and look forward to seeing more content.



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Re: Sbound 98s or 112s

Post by Hhowden » Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:55 pm

Stephen wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:28 am
@Hhowden
Fischer S-Bound 112 Crown/Dual-Skin Xtralite Backcountry - 189cm
$339.95

Four (4) pair available.

https://www.skatepro.com/en-us/744-4651 ... WvEALw_wcB
Thank you so much. You're a saint for finding these.



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Re: Sbound 98s or 112s

Post by Stephen » Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:26 pm

@Hhowden, thanks for the appreciation — I hope they work out well for you.
Enjoy the great terrain and snow you have around there.



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Re: Sbound 98s or 112s

Post by stilltryin » Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:39 am

I'm just seconding an earlier comment about not going NNN-BC if you do go with 112. I'm sure some of the more skilled folks here could do it, but being able to go to a heavier leather or light plastic boot as needed seems like a good option when you get that wide. (Happy to be corrected.) Of course, money may be a factor. If you already have NNN-BC Alaskas, I guess you could try that binding and see how it goes and change boots/bindings if needed.
(I don't know what the burliest NNN-BC boot is.)



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Re: Sbound 98s or 112s

Post by Stephen » Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:11 am

I don’t know how the Sbound 112 and the Voile Objective compare, but the Objective is a slightly wider ski, and I ski that with NNN BC and ALFA Guards, and am pretty happy with that setup.
At the same time, a plastic boot and more robust binding would offer more control, at the cost of lightness and sense of freedom.
I think if one just wants to explore the backcountry, NNN BC and leathers are an ok choice.
If one wants to use the setup as an “earn your turns” XCD setup, plastic boots and a beefier binding probably makes more sense.



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Re: Sbound 98s or 112s

Post by Tom M » Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:51 am

@Hhowden and @Stephen Wow, I think you found the deal of the month. That is an amazing price for the Sbound 112, and based on the description, it is the 2021/2022 version with lighter weight core, 2400 grams for the 179. If I recall, my old 98's are 2490 grams, so they should be just as much fun. Fischer also has a new boot this season, the transnordic. I haven't seen these boots in the flesh, but they look interesting, are reasonably priced, and might be worth investigating, since it appears that Alfa may have stopped producing the Greenland. The Greenlands are still listed on Alfa's website, but they have no sizes available, so it makes me wonder. Here is one of the few places I've found that has the transnordic in stock https://www.backcountry.com/Store/catal ... ransnordic
@Hhowden mentioned the Alpina Alaska and they seem readily available, but it would be interesting to compare the Transnordic with the Alaska side by side for flex and lateral support. I skied the SB 125's with soft boots, the Fischer BCX 625's, and when they wore out, the Rossignol BCX 12's, so a sturdy leather boot and the 112's would be just fine. I no longer have the SB 125's, they found a new home in the Black Hills of South Dakota after I picked up a set of Voile Objectives. @jyw5 skis a set of SB 112 with leathers and I'm surprised he hasn't chimed in on this thread. He is probably too busy skiing the great snow at Hatchers while I wait for winter to come down the mountain. :D At any rate, I'm glad you were able to find a pair of 112's at 189 cm. Let us all know how they work out, post some photos, and maybe our paths will cross this winter.



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Re: Sbound 98s or 112s

Post by Stephen » Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:27 pm

Wow, in one day the 4 sets of skis I posted about above are gone.
I’m just not used to this sort of supply scarcity.



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Re: Sbound 98s or 112s

Post by Montana St Alum » Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:36 pm

Stephen wrote:
Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:27 pm
Wow, in one day the 4 sets of skis I posted about above are gone.
I’m just not used to this sort of supply scarcity.
We've gone from:
"haste makes waste"
to:
"He who hesitates is lost".

I'm more of an: "Oh no, my bank account isn't empty. I'd better buy something" kind of guy.



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