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Ancient, and maybe hopeless, but has anyone come up with a solution?
I got busted at the local ski resort.
Didn’t throw me off the hill, but got lecture and stern looks.
What makes the original work is that it’s a very thin piece of metal.
The fact that @phoenix said the plates are not comparable with newer bindings (due to no recess on underside of binding to accommodate the plate) seems discouraging.
Anyway, just giving this a bounce, hoping for a solution.
Hi @Stephen,
When you got busted what did they suggest? I want to spend some time on the green circle 'magic carpet' with my NNN-BC equipment this year. I think I need to do some downhill laps to build muscle memory.
Did the patrollers (or whoever) say a DIY leash is OK?
Would tying a 5-6mm paracord (climbing rope) around the ski right in front of the binding work? or using a thin bungee cord... would it produce too much drag? (What I mean is a thin rope of sorts going around the ski to use as a latch point for your leash...since there are no holes or loops to attach to on the ski or binding).
I would love to try my NNNBC at the resort too but I don't think they allow it without leashes.
Use 3-5mm climbing cord: the tensile strength is off the scale. Find a way to loop through the binding, or a stainless eyelet screw into the ski - glued. Then tie it to your boot, or use the lightest climbing-rated carabiner you can find.
Oh yeah, just like the picture in the post above mine; however, the weak point there is the plastic of the binding, or the laces of your boot clipped to. However, any stress on your laces (clip to several crossings) is dynamic (it slides) but to the ski/binding end is static (it's fixed): that's where it'd fail if it's going to.
The thing is, the NNN BC binding is never going to release (unless the toe bar pulls out of your boot), so the strap is for show. It’s basically an “if / then” sort of thing. If you want to ski the resort, then you have to have a leash (even though that ski is never releasing from your boot).
Da rules is da rules.
You might be able to get away without leashes at some resorts, but not worth the uncertainty and hassle.
The thing is, the NNN BC binding is never going to release (unless the toe bar pulls out of your boot), so the strap is for show. It’s basically an “if / then” sort of thing. If you want to ski the resort, then you have to have a leash (even though that ski is never releasing from your boot).
Da rules is da rules.
You might be able to get away without leashes at some resorts, but not worth the uncertainty and hassle.
I agree. its mostly just for show at a resort. The only other application is on steep backcountry terrain (like I have encountered) but in those cases, your boot ain't gonna pop out of the binding. A leash however is good if you are in a steep difficult spot and are trying to click into the binding...its nice to be tethered so you don't have a runaway ski. This scenario doesnt happen often.
Thanks for everyone's input. I finally have an answer! Before I start drilling holes, I'm going to evaluate each Asnes ski to figure out what I would like best at a typical resort. decisions...decisions...
Resort skiing would be great to get hundreds of thousands of vertical feet to practice the downhill aspect of xcD.
The thing is, the NNN BC binding is never going to release (unless the toe bar pulls out of your boot), so the strap is for show. It’s basically an “if / then” sort of thing. If you want to ski the resort, then you have to have a leash (even though that ski is never releasing from your boot).
Da rules is da rules.
You might be able to get away without leashes at some resorts, but not worth the uncertainty and hassle.
I agree. its mostly just for show at a resort. The only other application is on steep backcountry terrain (like I have encountered) but in those cases, your boot ain't gonna pop out of the binding. A leash however is good if you are in a steep difficult spot and are trying to click into the binding...its nice to be tethered so you don't have a runaway ski. This scenario doesnt happen often.
Thanks for everyone's input. I finally have an answer! Before I start drilling holes, I'm going to evaluate each Asnes ski to figure out what I would like best at a typical resort. decisions...decisions...
Resort skiing would be great to get hundreds of thousands of vertical feet to practice the downhill aspect of xcD.
Well I think I have the simplest solution, not that I've implemented it. Use some 3mm static cord, looped under the toe of the binding, between the three screws on the toe. Attach leash to that loop. You'd have to remove the toe of the binding to put it through: re-glue the holes and tighten down. That 3mm cord will flatten to under 1mm, be little trouble under the bindings, I bet. 2mm cord doesn't have much tensile strength. Of course, you could use some kind of wire, perhaps stronger.
