narrow double-cambered off-trail xcountry ski

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Re: narrow double-cambered off-trail xcountry ski

Post by bgregoire » Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:47 am

bgregoire wrote: From my understanding the NARROW ones have zero sidecut (whereas as the XCD ones have tons). I tried one pair once for 30 seconds. Great for crossing a lake. I hear they are still being sold, even though the company does not seem to advertise them online.
Well ok, a sidecut of 8mm or so....nut much for the xcD affictionados?
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Re: narrow double-cambered off-trail xcountry ski

Post by MikeK » Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:54 am

Thanks for the info Ben. I've seen a few people on the Discovery's on groomed trails actually.

They'd probably be comparable to the E99 or Glittertind for K&G. I've not seen anyone with the wider ones around here - of course those people are sometimes harder to find ;)

edit: I suppose they were the Discovery 68 or whatever model preceded those.



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Re: narrow double-cambered off-trail xcountry ski

Post by connyro » Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:58 am

bgregoire wrote:
MikeK wrote:Not much talk about the Alpinas - do they still make skis anymore?

I've noticed a few models here and there at shops but I never bothered to try them.
From my understanding the NARROW ones have zero sidecut (whereas as the XCD ones have tons). I tried one pair once for 30 seconds. Great for crossing a lake. I hear they are still being sold, even though the company does not seem to advertise them online.
I don't have much to add but I've got a friend who has been on the Alpina X Terrains for several years. They have a ton of sidecut (110 66 96) and only come in up to 170 in length. They are heavy but solidly built, more like a downhill ski than a XC ski. The scales have very good grip for climbing and he seems to do pretty well on the downs with Voile 3-pin HW and Andrew double leathers. I don't think they are the greatest for K+G due to their heft and squirliness that is a result of all that sidecut. I would put these in the same category as the Guides/Annums, Rossi BC 125 or Vector BCs.



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Re: narrow double-cambered off-trail xcountry ski

Post by bgregoire » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:02 am

lilcliffy wrote: Anyone have any advice, thoughts or comments?
So Lilcliffy, did you make your pick?
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Re: narrow double-cambered off-trail xcountry ski

Post by lilcliffy » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:18 am

Locally (New Brunswick), the ski shops only carry the performance-orientated, groomed track, Alpina skis (classic and skate).

Mountain Equipment Coop (MEC) has carried Alpina skis recently.

I have seen Alpina backcountry skis on many US websites (e.g. Backcountry, REI, GearX, ORS, etc.).

All of the Alpina backcountry-xcountry skis are now under the "Discovery" line. The lineup is similar to Rossi- the narrower skis are double-cambered and long; the fatter skis are single-cambered geared towards XCD (i.e. telemark). The fattest Alpina XCD ski is the Discovery 110 (formerly the X-Terrain)- has an extreme parabolic sidecut- reportedly has amazing turning performance- can't imagine using it as a touring ski.

Alpina backcountry lineup: http://shop.alpinasportsus.com/en/categ ... ry_id=8817
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Re: narrow double-cambered off-trail xcountry ski

Post by lilcliffy » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:30 am

bgregoire wrote:
lilcliffy wrote: Anyone have any advice, thoughts or comments?
So Lilcliffy, did you make your pick?
Ha! Good question...been waiting for a 210cm waxable Voss or E89 to go on sale- by the time they did there were no 210cm left!

Also been watching the price of the Rossi BC59CL (waxable) (not my first pick)- it went on clearance at MEC 10 days ago- but no 210cm left! Argh!
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